Members Les Paul Lover Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Played an open Jam night last night. Well {censored} me it's hard to keep up with a drummer. Years of distorted bedroom playing means I obviously haven't paid too much attention to keeping to the rythm. To top it all, a chap borrowed my LP and absolutely smoked it - that bloke was a top player no doubt about that..... My poor LP.... It's gonna cry the next time I pick it up!!!!!! At least, that's prioritised my GAS - next on the list will be a looper, that's for sure. Only way to improve my rythm control on my own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 I fear that, too. I haven't played with a group/friends in years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 happens to me all the time...start practicing with a lot less gain, and start using a metronome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Metronome or drum tracks. Must have when you're alone but congrats for getting out there! EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stevenjuel Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 you guys are making me afraid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 you guys are making me afraid... of what? ...improving your timing and learning how to play at moderate gain levels will make an open jam a much more enjoyable experience...most people don't know it but the super-saturated stuff that sounds good in your bedroom just sounds ASS when combined with other instruments...and working on tempo and timing will make it easier to fit into the combo... ...don't fear it...embrace it and get ready to JAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 you guys are making me afraid... "There's no crying in baseball." and no fear in guitar playing. Just do it! EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 's mel gibson Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 All drummers aren't perfect. Some speed up and slow down and don't even realize it. The last bass player I had was lost as soon as I transitioned from rhythm to my solo. He was just jamming the whole time and never really learned any of the songs. The hard part to believe was that we'd been around the block and through the laneway twice already. (Verse&chorus) So he couldn't remember what we did 48 bars ago. For me, timing is the groove. Everyone's got to be on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted July 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Defo something I have to work on! Jello, I tend to play with average to low gain - I'm not a high gainer really, even though it can be fun at times. Edge of break to classic rock is essentially where I live. Quite want to get a digitech jam man because it has a tap tempo feature too - that would probably come in handy. Stevenjuel - nothing to be afraid off, just something else to learn. Struggling to keep to the rythm with a drummer is funnier than playing on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hubert Stumblin Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 start practicing with a lot less gain, and start using a metronome... Yah, this. That and/or playing along with something. Sometimes a strict diet of metronome playing can make your playing sound...well... "metromomic" . You also need to get a feel for groove, swing, etc. Sometimes it's better to play a little behind or a little ahead depending on the song. So, pop a CD in of some of your fave music and play along. Feels better than a metronome as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 I like just playing along to songs, mimicking the rhythm or lead guitars, sometimes taking off on my own tangent. It's good practice for learning to feel the grove so your timing eventually becomes second nature, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted July 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Hubert & Lowbrow, that's sound advice too. Crazy stuff - one of the looper I was keeping track off on ebay has just sold for MORE than it costs new!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lp_junkie Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 I find it interesting to play with different drummers, I am used to the way our original drummer did things so I enjoy the freshness that having a new take on things has. Open jams can be a rude awaking for some of the reclusive bedroom players, but they also show you what you need to work on. Get out and play with others it's the only way to grow as a musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adey Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Nothing beats playing with a band, because a metronome cant hear you. But still, practicing with a CD metronome will will teach you to listen, which will help when you play with a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Backing tracks . I have a small Kustom practice amp with CD out that I tun into a 1x12 cab. Works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 Someone asking around for me? Usually it's good lookin' hussies asking around for me to satisfy their every need, but I guess not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Red81 Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 i have this problem/fear as well. is there a drum machine we can program that's relatively cheap? i don't need something that's studio quality and has a 300 gb memory, just something i can plug a beat into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 All drummers aren't perfect. Some speed up and slow down and don't even realize it. How do you tell when a bad drummer is over for a visit? The knocking gets faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Apple Slim Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 i have this problem/fear as well. is there a drum machine we can program that's relatively cheap? i don't need something that's studio quality and has a 300 gb memory, just something i can plug a beat into? look for a used Alesis or Boss DR http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alesis-SR16-Drum-Machine?sku=705531 http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-Dr.-Rhythm-DR3?sku=700510 Or theres software http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/iZotope-iDrum-Version-1.7-Drum-Machine-Software?sku=703576 or keyboards, you could prob find a almost free one at a yard sale with a few patterns in it http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-YPT220-61Key-Portable-Keyboard?sku=584564 As nothing beats playing along with records, http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=guitar+trainer (there is also slowdown software) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesnapper Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 I was shocked when I started going to jam nights just how good some people were - I've learnt so much by playing with awesome players - much more than I ever learnt at home. Of course, once you've learnt *what* to do, you've got to take it home and practice it! And by far the most annoying thing is when one of these guys borrows your guitar and makes it sound better than you can only dream of. And then says something like 'nice guitar, you should take these wimpy strings off. It'd sound great with 12s..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brandass Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 All good suggestions. I've mostly gone with a looper, but do use CDs and backing tracks occasionally. Looking into drum machines/loops now, will count on my drum-interested daughter later... Nice thing about the looper is that you could also work it into your gigs, seen a lot of that and it looks like a blast. Don't gig, though, so haven't tried it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fuelish Posted July 2, 2010 Members Share Posted July 2, 2010 Get out and play with others it's the only way to grow as a musician. Absofreakinglutely !!!! Dicking around by one's self only takes you so far .... and then there's the whole "synergy" aspect of playing with others - great fun (as long as the drummer is competent:lol:). When playing out, folks seem to think I'm quite good,when in all actuality, I've just been playing for so many years that I can fake it pretty well by instinct - I took lessons as a kid (end of the '60's, early '70's), but have forgotten most of the theory, etc.....my fingers just seem to know what to do...sort of. Sense of time/rhythm is extremely important in any style of music, but I've never had much issue with it myself ....it's usually the bassist or drummer's fault -that's my story and I'm sticking to it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted July 2, 2010 Members Share Posted July 2, 2010 yeah, always try to blame the drummer. learn to play in time, mother{censored}ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted July 2, 2010 Members Share Posted July 2, 2010 Dearest Punk Rock, Hey man, just wanted to thank you for all your quick changes, fast tempos, and frowning upon stopping for more than a couple seconds in between songs; for thou art hast carvest my sense of rhythm from stone, and forced me to be mindful of every sound our drummer makes. Sincerely, Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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