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Mike Fiasco

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A lot of people have been burned by cheaters, scammers, and villains in guitar deals. This happens on CL, eBay, GC, the mom & pop, you name it.

But that's not what this thread is about.

Sometimes good deals go good, but the guy you dealt with was an asshole anyhow. This thread is about the asshole who was being an asshole just to be an asshole.

My first one was the guy from craigslist who was buying my guitar. He played the {censored} out of it, and started to knock down my price. Old strings, scratched pickguard, ding on the back. I told him my price was firm. (It was a cheapo I was selling cheap as a project.)

By the time he was done playing it you'da swore he hated the thing. He finally forked over the $75 and left. I got my price, he got his git, but a whole helluva lot of mojo got burned in that deal.

So who's the biggest asshole in your resume?

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A similar CL guy.. When I sold my last MIM Strat, a quilt top one that was easily worth the $250 I was asking, we met in a parking lot for what I thought was a done deal.. So he started looking it over, trying to point out that it just had a white pickguard (that barely had a scratch on it) and that he didn't think the pickups were anything other than bone stock MIM pickups (despite the fact that he hadn't plugged it in and the fact that it was a limited edition with non-standard MIM pickups according to MF a few years back), etc, etc... Just anything he could find to taint the value of my Strat.. I finally said look, the price ain't changing a dime, take it or leave it.. I started packing it back up and he quickly handed over the money.. Dip{censored}..

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I had a guy buy a marshall JCM 2-12 combo from me on craigslist. No issues at all with the deal. Guy paid the already cheap asking price and took the amp. Everything was cool, then about a year and half later I got an email from him that the amp blew a power tube, and that he wanted a partial refund. :freak:

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I had a guy buy a marshall JCM 2-12 combo from me on craigslist. No issues at all with the deal. Guy paid the already cheap asking price and took the amp. Everything was cool, then about a year and half later I got an email from him that the amp blew a power tube, and that he wanted a partial refund.
:freak:



I would have sent him back a fake MAILER DAMON PERMANENT ERROR UNDELIVERABLE email.

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Oh so many buttheads, and so little time...

One that immediately comes to mind is a guy who advertised a Squier Jagmaster in "mint" condition at a low-ish but still reasonable price.

No photo, but mint is mint, right? Who needs a photo?

So I drive ~30 miles to a gas station in his backyard, he shows up ~20 min late (first time I call him he claims to be 3/4 of the way there; really obvious that he hasn't left the driveway yet; should've pulled the plug right then and there).

He's late, right? So I'm expecting some semblance of an apology. Yeah, right. Getting out of his truck he's talking on his cell, and he continues to talk on it for a full 10 min as I impatiently stand by. No joke. And 10 min is a generous estimate. Again, I should've pulled the plug, and flipped him the bird to boot. But I'm too polite for my own good, and I'm also ~30 miles into this, so I clear my throat and look at my watch for a while, and finally as I'm turning to head back to my car he hangs up and says "I'm done, let's do this." Oh boy.

So he pulls the case from the truck, opens it up, and out comes a "mint" Jagmaster with:

1) Two quarter-sized indentations that shatter the finish

2) An inch-long scratch through the finish that ends in an additional dime-sized bare patch where a fragment of the finish had flaked off

3) A missing knob

4) A headstock bearing "Jagmaster" but no "Squier", and ample evidence of the sanding that removed the "Squier"

This is all on the front of the guitar, mind you. The back had a decently-bad case of buckle rash, more missing finish and all. But who's counting?

So I ask him about his definition of "mint", and he goes into this long explanation of how he came to use that word instead of "essentially new" or "barely used". Fascinating.

I point out the obvious damage, and each ding has its own story, which he'd like to launch into but by now I'm not in a listening mood. I tell him about my definition of "mint", and "essentially new" and "barely used" for the hell of it, and though there are many interruptions the definition does make it onto the table. I suggest that he look into whether the guitar-buying community generally sides with his definition, or with mine. Pointless, I know, but I had to do it.

As I turn to leave he expresses surprise that I'd turn down this gem - "I can't believe you're passing on this, man!" I ask whether he'd consider a reduction in price. There's no way I'm buying at this point - who knows what else he's done to the poor thing? - but I'm curious. Predictably, he's absolutely firm on the price, and is borderline offended at my question. "Not cool! Not cool!"

I exit to loud proclamations of my mental deficiency. Tempted to turn back and brain him with the Jagmaster, but think of my wife and kids and simply flip the bird over my shoulder.

It was a long drive back.

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So a guy advertises a 4x12 Marshall cab for like $100 on my local CL. I think he called it a 1965 but it was a while ago so I'm not positive. Says he thinks it has the original Celestions in it, not sure, hasn't had the back off lately, but it sounds awesome.

So I drive the 30 miles, 60 minutes down to the near north side. Guy answers the door, looks a little grungy, unshowered and unshaved, whatever. Very polite, invites me in and I'm practically overwhelmed by a smell. I can't quite describe it, but call it dead animal, fecal matter and dirty sex all rolled into one. I look around and he has what I would describe as death metal gay porn posters on the walls. Again, whatever, but I'm starting to make sure I have a clear path to the door just in case an axe murderer comes charging out of a back room.

The guy continues being polite and pleasant but I'm getting seriously creeped out. He shows me the cab. It's covered in baggy bright purple tolex with burlap grill cloth. The handles say Marshall and it's heavy as hell. He asks me if I want to plug it in and I politely decline saying I'm late for an appointment. So I paid him, loaded it in my car and got out of there! Happy I escaped with my life.

I get it home to find it only has 2 speakers in it and plywood over the other 2 holes in the baffle board. The plywood is falling apart on the bottom and the finger jointing is loose in places. Sounds great though. I take the back off. I was glad not to find body parts or animal sacrifices in there. Instead I find it is loaded with 2 vintage original Electrovoice EV-12L's in perfect condition. I sold 1 for $150 on ebay and put the other in a Mesa Mark I clone that my brother has. Amazing speaker, best I've ever heard by a long shot.

He was a nice enough guy I suppose. The cab wasn't exactly as described but it turned out OK. I don't understand how he lives with the smell, what his landlord or neighbors think, or what actually is the cause of it. I suppose I was never in any danger but wow that was strange.

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Turned out OK? Turned out great!!! I'm amazed that you bought it, though - given the tolex and grill I'd have insisted on opening it up first. But hey, whatever works!

 

 

All I could think of was getting the hell outta there as soon as possible while still being interested in the cab. I didn't mention it earlier but the place was a complete mess. Junk everywhere, we were stepping over it in piles. As I'm leaving the guy says, "hey I have a 4x12 Fender cab for sale too for the same price if you're interested." I said I'd let him know.

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This thread is about the asshole who was being an asshole just to be an asshole.



So who's the biggest asshole in your resume?

 

 

 

 

....well....

 

 

...i dun't have to look far outside da mirror to find em ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....i rekn....

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