Members ashasha Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Just listening to some Foo Fighters and was just thinking ''what if Cobain never killed himself?" Not trying to say that was the best career move for anyone, but it sure as hell turned out a lot differently than it was headed for old Dave when he was 'just the drummer.' And is Chris Shiflett underrated? I think of him in the same vein as Mike Campbell; never overstated and always serves the song and when you think about it he's got some tasty licks in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I think he wouldve branched out and done something by himself anyways, music seems to be in his blood. I mean, look at the all the side projects he does like drumming for QOTSA, Them crooked vultures and Probot. If he really wanted to always be a drummer he couldve. What I find weird is that when probot came out Dave described himself as "always been a metal head"... so why is Foo Fighters a rock band then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I think he wouldve branched out and done something by himself anyways, music seems to be in his blood. I mean, look at the all the side projects he does like drumming for QOTSA, Them crooked vultures and Probot. If he really wanted to always be a drummer he couldve. What I find weird is that when probot came out Dave described himself as "always been a metal head"... so why is Foo Fighters a rock band then? The steady paycheck is probably nice. . Let's not forget his gig as Tenacious D's drummer as well! . I've always thought that Cobain's best contribution to music was inadvertantly launching Dave Grohl's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sylvesterlowery Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I think he wouldve branched out and done something by himself anyways, music seems to be in his blood. I mean, look at the all the side projects he does like drumming for QOTSA, Them crooked vultures and Probot. If he really wanted to always be a drummer he couldve.What I find weird is that when probot came out Dave described himself as "always been a metal head"... so why is Foo Fighters a rock band then? Well, Dave says he has listened to metal since he was a kid. I know he's a huge Motorhead fan. And he brings up that story about Nirvana listening to a tape with Celtic Frost on one side and Flipper on the other. However, just because a person is a metal head doesn't mean that they have to play exclusively. He's expressed a fondness for cheesy stuff like Wings. Seems like he's happier playing straight ahead rock as his main gig and branching out on other stuff when the need strikes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Even without suicide in the picture, it's hard for me to imagine Cobain's life remaining disciplined enough for him to maintain his role as the nucleus for a group for an extended duration. I think Grohl would have been forced to either branch out or remain musicaly stagnate for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members esphil Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Foo fighters is such a fantastic band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted July 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 What I've always wondered was just how much influence Dave had on Nirvana's songs. I mean Cobain gets all the credit and I am sure that as the front man he had the most input, but you can't dismiss Dave's musical sensiblities and talent. As for the metal head thing; I was always a huge metal fan too, but it doesn't come out in my playing even when I want it to. I can play some songs and stuff, but if I had to compose something metal it'd be pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loganonymous Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well, most of the Foo Fighters first album was just stuff Dave wrote and recorded at home by himself, while still being the drummer of Nirvana, so I think it was pretty much inevitable that he branched out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted July 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well, most of the Foo Fighters first album was just stuff Dave wrote and recorded at home by himself, while still being the drummer of Nirvana, so I think it was pretty much inevitable that he branched out. I thought that it was after Kurt died. I knew that he did the whole thing (one of my favorite albums by the way) and put a band together later on. I remember being amazed at how well he sang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 The steady paycheck is probably nice. . Let's not forget his gig as Tenacious D's drummer as well! . I've always thought that Cobain's best contribution to music was inadvertantly launching Dave Grohl's career. Forgot about Tenacious D I doubt Grohl would go hungry tho if all he did was Foo Fighters But dont get my wrong, I absolutely love Foo Fighters, I just find it odd that he would describe himself as a metal head when he fronts a band like the Foos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted July 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I remember when the Queens of the Stoneage had their big hit, Foo Fighers had something in the charts and there was a Nirvana song that was either not released prior or something....but there was a week there where Dave was on 3 different songs in regular radio rotation and was in 3 different bands at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snowaie Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Dave Grohl has a real talent. Incredible musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faberbz Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I went to college in Seattle BITD and one of my best friends was housemates with Willie and Nate when they were still in Sunny Day Real Estate. As they told it....Grohl knew them, as everyone knew everyone else in the Seattle scene. All very laid back. The suspicion was that Cobain would crawl into a hole and let Courtney's career go for a while. Then he shot himself. Novaselic and Grohl were allegedly in the studio, recording their own stuff waiting for Cobain to show more regularly. Never really did. Some say that what they did in the studio became half of the Foos first record. After Cobain's death, Novaselic was in the clubs, Grohl was calling around town looking for a new lineup. It was his way to move forward. Cobain's death hit the whole city hard. So Grohl got Willie and Nate. And away they went. And all those 'grunge' guys were metalheads at heart. Maybe not Cobain, but Grohl and Novaselic, all the guys from Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, PJ, Mudhoney, etc. I have no proof, but I'm guessing that their shows in Seattle down in the Pioneer Square clubs were a little different than their road shows. Grohl and Kim Thayil used to appear on a local comedy show once in a while called 'Almost Live' and do this headbanging skit which was funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kap'n Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Grohl and Kim Thayil used to appear on a local comedy show once in a while called 'Almost Live' and do this headbanging skit which was funny! Lame! Lame! Lame! The Lame List! Clips from that have not yet made it to YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Annoying Twit Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Forgot about Tenacious D You forgot about this? Grohl was in the band for the Backbeat movie too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Lame! Lame! Lame! The Lame List! Clips from that have not yet made it to YouTube. what'd ya talking about! of course they have... [YOUTUBE]uRz6IP9k400[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I went to college in Seattle BITD and one of my best friends was housemates with Willie and Nate when they were still in Sunny Day Real Estate. As they told it....Grohl knew them, as everyone knew everyone else in the Seattle scene. All very laid back. The suspicion was that Cobain would crawl into a hole and let Courtney's career go for a while. Then he shot himself. Novaselic and Grohl were allegedly in the studio, recording their own stuff waiting for Cobain to show more regularly. Never really did. Some say that what they did in the studio became half of the Foos first record. After Cobain's death, Novaselic was in the clubs, Grohl was calling around town looking for a new lineup. It was his way to move forward. Cobain's death hit the whole city hard. So Grohl got Willie and Nate. And away they went.And all those 'grunge' guys were metalheads at heart. Maybe not Cobain, but Grohl and Novaselic, all the guys from Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, PJ, Mudhoney, etc. I have no proof, but I'm guessing that their shows in Seattle down in the Pioneer Square clubs were a little different than their road shows.Grohl and Kim Thayil used to appear on a local comedy show once in a while called 'Almost Live' and do this headbanging skit which was funny! Not all. Cobain was definitely punk. His hero's were the type of music nobody gave a {censored} about..the wipers DOA and all the rest of the west coast punk scene. Soundgarden were kind of but they never admitted it. In fact I have several old VHS tapes with Kim interviews where he goes out of his way to distance the band from what was popular metal at the time. Refusing to have guitar solos told a lot. AIC were a hair metal band in the beginning so that is true. PJ weren't really metal. Mother Love bone was somewhat more glam, but PJ broke that habit. Vedder was unique. And I don't believe what was on the FF first album was ever even close to being something cobain would put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 What I've always wondered was just how much influence Dave had on Nirvana's songs. I mean Cobain gets all the credit and I am sure that as the front man he had the most input, but you can't dismiss Dave's musical sensiblities and talent.As for the metal head thing; I was always a huge metal fan too, but it doesn't come out in my playing even when I want it to. I can play some songs and stuff, but if I had to compose something metal it'd be pretty lame. I think you're giving him too much credit. He brought a stable drum beat to nirvana and really nothing more. He was a hired gun so they could break through. Nirvana was cobain and maybe a little krist novoselic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well, whatever. I'd like to thank Cobain for giving us Grohl. I did not like Nirvana but have pretty much like all of Grohl's non-Nirvana projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted July 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I think you're giving him too much credit. He brought a stable drum beat to nirvana and really nothing more. He was a hired gun so they could break through. Nirvana was cobain and maybe a little krist novoselic. Well if you listen to Bleach and Nevermind there's a pretty vast difference IMHO. I'm not a Nirvana historian, but I would assume that the biggest change in the lineup at the time was Grohl and that is when they turned the corner. If he had never done anything after Nirvana or even had just the one album I would probably say that you were right, but he's put out album after album of great music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well if you listen to Bleach and Nevermind there's a pretty vast difference IMHO.I'm not a Nirvana historian, but I would assume that the biggest change in the lineup at the time was Grohl and that is when they turned the corner.If he had never done anything after Nirvana or even had just the one album I would probably say that you were right, but he's put out album after album of great music. Yeah but that difference is what I was talking about. A drummer who brings tightness to the band makes a world of difference. It's also the fact that we now look back upon Nevermind from the pop perspective it turned out to be. But back then that album was for a brief time, just a punk album on major label. I just think that if you listen to Nirvana and FF it's not even close. Very different song writing style. I hear none of the "dave Grohl" sound on any nirvana albums from a melodic perspective. Only his drumming...which was a million times better than Chad Channing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ralph onion Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Watch the DVD Live-Unplugged in New York. They all switch around on instruments. Tight band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Dave started out (as a {censored}in' young'un) Drumming in punk bands like Dane Bramage, and the legendary SCREAM in the D.C. area. Always made music on the side-even w/Nirvana, there were tapes floating around of Foo-related solo sessions while he was still in the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 He's a great musician. I was never a Nirvana fan but Grohl is exceptional. As far as being a metalhead and playing rock, that's not uncommon. I listen to rock n roll but I write folk ballads. Go figure. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kap'n Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Thanks! They must have gone up fairly recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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