Members caveman Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 [YOUTUBE]Gbfnh1oVTk0[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 It may be the first. Has anyone else noticed that Led Zeppelin's Boogie with Stu sounds similar? [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 I've heard this one, from 1948, is in the running for the first rock and roll song. It certainly predates Rocket 88. [YOUTUBE]Xo9auUfitVA[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Ella Fitzgerald, Rock It For Me (1938)[YOUTUBE]YmdVTJPbdTs[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evh1984 Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Led Zeppelin would never rip off a lesser known song and present it as their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ralph onion Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 There was alot of very early rock and roll but it wasnt classified as such way back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuyLoCo444 Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Anything by Robert Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fu2jobu Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Ummmmm, errrrrr they both have piano? Other than that you are stretching farther than a 6 year old with severe A.D.D. that got his hands on a stretch Armstrong that has been baking in the sun for 4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foppy Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Sorry, this has them all beat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gumkick Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Rock & Roll was a term Alan Freed made up to make Rhythm & Blues palatable to white audiences but you can follow that R&B thread pretty far back. There's boogie woogie pianists back to the 30's, blues shouters fronting Kansas City swing bands, electric blues guitarists, New Orleans pianists, west coast piano trios, vocal groups both gospel and secular, Sister Rosetta Tharpe doing her electrified country blues gospel thing with the Lucky Millinder Orchestra, honking saxophone small-combo swing, Louis Jordan, T-Bone Walker, Tiny Grimes, the Delmore Brothers' hillbilly boogie, Roscoe Gordon's bizarre proto-ska, and on and on. But IMO if Rock & Roll can be said to be a distinct style it started when Earl Palmer straightened out the beat backing up Little Richard on Tutti Frutti. Not that there aren't plenty of genuine Rock & Roll songs with a shuffle beat but to me that seems like the dividing line. Rocket 88 does have something but there's so much rocking R&B from the pre-Rock & Roll period that I don't think that question can ever be settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Okay. I'd like everyone to take a listen to this track by Kokomo Arnold from 1935. I'd like to get peoples' opinions. To me, it has everything a rock and roll song needs, but it came out at least a decade before any song I've seriously heard bandied about as "The First Rock and Roll Song." What say you? [YOUTUBE]mT4DuBjXIvY[/YOUTUBE] To me, it's rock and roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Rocket 88 does have something but there's so much rocking R&B from the pre-Rock & Roll period that I don't think that question can ever be settled. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 To me, it's rock and roll. Bump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimSF76 Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Led Zeppelin would never rip off a lesser known song and present it as their own ^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted July 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 To me, it's rock and roll. Sounds R&R to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qnOf-OMuAw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 RIP, Danny Cedrone Cedrone was paid only $21 for his work on the session, as at that time Haley chose not to hire a full-time guitarist for his group. Cedrone would also play on the June 7, 1954 recording session for Haley's version of "Shake, Rattle and Roll" although he was not allotted the chance for another notable guitar solo. On June 17, ten days after this session, Cedrone died of a broken neck after falling down a staircase (some sources say he died of a heart attack). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 To me, it's rock and roll. Rock and Roll? That's 80% of Aerosmith's catalog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twofoolsaminute Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I've always heard it was "Rock Around the Clock" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hubert Stumblin Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 You can keep going further and further back and pulling out examples of stuff that pretty much qualify. Listen to some Pinetop Smith boogie stuff from the late 20's and it sounds just like the stuff Jerry Lee Lewis put down about 25 years later. A lot of what became recognized as the "rock and roll sound" has its origins in stuff from at least the 1920's in blues, gospel and hillbilly (country). Some of those influences could go as far back as the beginning of the 20th century. But we'll never know since music by black people and hillbillies was not considered worthy of recording back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 There's this one from Rosetta Tharpe in 1944.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87O16F1stXs The lines between blues, swing, boogie and rock can get pretty blurred. It's hard to say when one becomes the other. I think that Ella Fitzgerald song is a bit of a stretch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yorgatron Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 yes,and let me add that I am in no way influenced by the fact that I own an Oldsmobile 88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members schoolie1 Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 "A Fifth of Beethoven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imbuedblue Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hard Truth Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 I say Roy Brown or Wynonie Haris' Good Rockin Tonight. I don't think that Ella cut sounds enough like rock. The Kokomo Arnold song might qualify if it had a bigger sound, but being just guitar and voice I don't think it qualifies. This is a good website on very early rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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