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Is there a hum canceling P90 available


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Part of what makes P-90's sound like P-90 is that hum underneath the tone, it's kind of like the salt on a meal. You don't what to taste it by itself, but if you take it away it's just too bland.

 

I've had P100's in a guitar, they're not bad sounding pickups, but they ain't P-90's.

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The problem with silent "P90's" is that while they can sound great, they are stacked coils / humbuckers at heart. They can sound very 90ish ... but always ish ..

 

If you absolutely need some form of hum canceling, like when playing one of those nightmare neon venues, I think MusicMan has the best solution with their Silent Circuit. Its an active unit that fits in the control cavity and with the little trimmer on top it can be dialed in to taste. It is setup to switch out of the circuit when both pickups are engaged or optionally setup to be switched out when or if you don't want it.

Problem is that its a proprietary item and not sold aftermarket. The only way to get one is in a new guitar or from someone like me who found a fool that gutted his Axis.

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Most of them are stacked coils which a lot of people dislike. Fralins on the other hand are a sidewinder configuration that was actually a design that Bill Lawrence came up with years ago.

 

Out of what's out there (and I have done a LOT of research) the Fralins seem to be the most warmly recognized ones. The others have very mixed reviews as to authenticity (actually none of them sound exactly like a P90, but they're varying degrees of close).

 

I ended up just saying screw it and went with a pair of Dimarzio virtual P90's because the price was decent and they use unbalanced coils which help to maintain a bit of the rawness. I wired them up in parallel to help to sweeten them up and they're better than decent sounding. I like them a lot. In series they sound like a cross between a PaF and a P90, in parallel it's a bit closer IMHO.

 

But I was at the point that I couldn't even play the damn thing because of hum. If you can deal with it I'd stick with what you got.

 

And I can't suggest strongly enough to steer clear of crap like the EH Hum Debugger and even the ISP Decimator if the hum is really loud. They work to a point, but if you play with any dynamics you get some weird phase shifting with the EH and the ISP sounds gritty at low amplitudes. Pretty sure that live in a band they'd be fine, but at home they're limited.

 

Here's the Fralins in action (about 1:10):

 

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Gibson p90's might have hum but they also have p90 tone...

Personally, as long as I am 5 or 10 feet from my amp I don't get 'much' hum.

 

I tend to put on my guitar, and tune with the amp on standby. When I flip standby of it hums pretty good, but as I move away most of it dies off. I will take the trade off of the tone vs the hum any day. p90's are just good stuff.

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the closest anyone has come to a p90 sans noise would have to be the pickups in the gibson blueshawk. there was a dummy coil in those guitars which would get rid of the 60hz hum.

 

 

I have a blueshawk, and the blues 90 pickups are not really very similar to regular gibson p90s in sound or design. The blues90 uses alnico5 pole pieces, rather than steel screws with a magnetic base like in a real p90, and they have much less winding than a p90 to compensate for the difference in desgn. As a result, the blues90 is a brighter pickup and is more like a fat single coil type sound than a regular old p90. I really like the blues90, and it is fair to call it p90 like, but it is not really what you might think of when talking about real p90 pickups. They sound very different than the p90s in my SG. You are right about the the noise canceling dummy coil design, it is awesome.

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