Members Anderton Posted January 29, 2011 Members Share Posted January 29, 2011 Just wondering...I was going to wait until the next generation appears, but it seems if I don't get an iPad, it will seriously limit my ability to review new gear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted January 29, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 How about "I'm waiting for the price to come down to under $100." But I'll have to settle for "There are no iPad apps yet that would justify my getting one" at the current price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chipmcdonald Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I want a touch screen interface for my pc, I don't want an IPad. I don't know anybody that is really lusting for one, either. The notion that a New Revolutionary Device will come rolling through the music industry routinely is maybe gone, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted January 30, 2011 Members Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'm interested in an iPad. In fact, I was interested in them before they came out, back when most were ridiculing it as an iPhone that couldn't make calls. I just don't really want to spend $500+ on it. It'd be handy for my photography and going on trips and things like that. I don't know how handy it would be for me in the studio, but then again, I'm not familiar with its pro audio apps. If I were to purchase one, I'd wait until for the next generation or more before I got one, though, but I have no plans for purchases right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ronan Murphy Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I have been wanting one pretty bad for a while, but there are too many other toys on the list ahead of it that I actually need. New set of monitors and another DA converter are going to win the battle for my dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 ... so, the Mexican is the only one in this poll with an iPad... go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 So is it more than you expected, Gustavo, or less? Do you use it mostly for music or personal activities? Please share. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted January 31, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 ... so, the Mexican is the only one in this poll with an iPad... go figure... You're the only one with a real job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'd love to have an iPad. But for the price they want, it's feature-deficient. And everything it does is available in other gadgets. Since I don't need it to do my job, I'll pass. But if my job as a reviewer were dependent upon having one, I'd get my employer to buy me one pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted January 31, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Since I don't need it to do my job, I'll pass. But if my job as a reviewer were dependent upon having one, I'd get my employer to buy me one pronto. My employer (me) is too cheap to buy me one. Can I convince your employer to buy me one? I'd love to be able to review some iPad applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just wondering...I was going to wait until the next generation appears, but it seems if I don't get an iPad, it will seriously limit my ability to review new gear... thus affecting my income and the ability to put food on the table and buy baby a new pair of shoes. [bolded italic phrase added by me] This is EXACTLY what I'm going to tell my wife. I used to console myself by saying, "Well, it's not a true productivity tool because it doesn't have a physical keyboard. So I don't really need one." That's a sticking point with me: Even though it's a lot bigger than the iPhone's, it's still frustrating to type out emails with a touch keyboard. But then I saw this at BestBuy: [video=youtube;LZ4ZV2elMYQ] It's a bluetooth keyboard that acts as a support (it's not docked) for the iPad in either portrait or landscape orientation and at an ideal viewing angle, and it's a protective aluminum cover to boot. So now I really need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 You need to talk with your employer. Let him know where it's at in this tech-driven age. My employer (me) is too cheap to buy me one. Can I convince your employer to buy me one? I'd love to be able to review some iPad applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sventvkg Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 i'm getting a new generation one for sure. Mostly because I can surf, read books and magazines, etc on it in bed and on the go! It's much lighter than my MBP. I like the control options for DAW's and plugs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah, I'll be getting one when the next generation comes out. I'm developing a mobile app for work that needs to be tested on the iPad, plus I would really like to see the way some of my favorite iPhone apps are implemented on the iPad, and some of the iPad-only apps do look cool. I really do like the multitouch interface, as I've mentioned before. And I really enjoy reading e-books on the iPhone - I can imagine it's even nicer on the larger screen, as would be some of the musical instrument and DAW apps. So I was interested anyway, but with my work situation being what it is now, I can totally justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So is it more than you expected, Gustavo, or less? Do you use it mostly for music or personal activities? Please share. Hey Geoff! I declared publicly that I would be getting an iPad until I started seeing apps I could use for making music. Of course, it is an awesome gadget to surf the web, watch YouTube videos, play games (many of them really fun), etc, but that was not enough to spend 880 (with all the taxes) in the 64GB + 3G model I bought. What drove me into the iPad was when I discovered that: 1) It can be a really good wireless remote control for Pro Tools (and other DAW programs): I have Far Out Labs' Pro Remote (it also runs on iPhones, if you're interested) and Neyrinck's V-Control Pro which is my favorite. Awesome stuff and really handy. 2) It can be a really good wireless MIDI controller for your soft synths: You can control drum machines with velocity (zone-dependent) sensitive pads and/or virtual keys, knobs, faders, X-Y pads, etc. 3) You can run really great sounding virtual synths, like KORG's iMS-20 or iElectribes, or apps like MusicStudio which is a synth with multiple instruments and a sequencer, and have fun while controlling them through its touch screen. 4) With iOS 4.2.1 you can now control the synths with a external USB MIDI keyboard, given iOS's compatibility with CoreMIDI. You will need the "Camera connection kit" to add an USB port to the iPad, no big deal. With this, you can now control parameters via touchscreen and play the sounds with actual keys. This is wonderful. 5) You can also use it to process vocals or guitars: there are awesome apps from IK Multimedia and PEAVEY, and then, some hardware to help you to get the best signal into them; some other programs accept audio interfaces with native CoreAudio drivers. it also helps that such applications sound just great,too. 6) For business, you get great versions of Numbers (Apple's Excel), Pages (word) and KeyNote. Just like Jon Chappell mentioned, you can have diverse input keyboards. I have apple's standard bluetooth keyboard which I can pair to the iPad. Or to the iPhone Checking personal and work's e-mail on it is really nice. It really makes impressive things a laptop can not do. Or do them differently, where "different" may be "better". And I find them good enough to have it, together with my Macbook Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cool, that sounds great! Thanks for your answer, Gustavo! When playing virtual synths, how is the latency on the iPad? Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted January 31, 2011 Members Share Posted January 31, 2011 I still don`t get the fuss over the iPad or the apps. My next Apple purchase will be an iMac with some external HDs. I`ve been heading in the other direction from all this technology. Even posting less and less here on HC and GC. Its nice... and I`m actually calling people more on my land line just to talk. Enough emailing too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cool, that sounds great! Thanks for your answer, Gustavo! When playing virtual synths, how is the latency on the iPad? Best, Geoff Hey! It all depends in how is it programmed, so it varies among different manufacturers and sometimes the latency can be greater while playing via the touchscreen and smaller when playing via USB MIDI. However I can say latency is pretty acceptable in the most of the cases. You may check some videos out there to confirm what I say. For WiFi remote control, it really helps to create a direct peer-to-peer connection between your Mac and the iPad. Serious note-input or daw control can be achieved this way. Me? I would be more than happy to use a USB controller and the iMS-20 for a gig, really. And the V-Control Pro is my official mobile control surface nowadays, when I don't have my MC Control with me. I'm damned serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 1, 2011 Members Share Posted February 1, 2011 1) It can be a really good wireless remote control for Pro Tools (and other DAW programs): I have Far Out Labs' Pro Remote (it also runs on iPhones, if you're interested) and Neyrinck's V-Control Pro which is my favorite. Awesome stuff and really handy.2) It can be a really good wireless MIDI controller for your soft synths: You can control drum machines with velocity (zone-dependent) sensitive pads and/or virtual keys, knobs, faders, X-Y pads, etc. Although all the reasons sound good, it's these first two that are most appealing to me as someone who has a Pro Tools studio. And for me, who does photography, seeing a photo that is 9" across, as well as being able to back up my SD cards from my camera, would also be really useful. And then possibly reading books and magazines or maybe watching movies on a trip as well. These are the things that seem appealing to me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted February 1, 2011 Members Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm going to wait to get a slate until I have some sort of reason besides novelty. I've yet to think of a compelling reason for me to own one. I have a small place, so it's not like I need a satellite machine. A slate wouldn't replace my laptop -- and I prefer the clamshell form factor for a machine that goes out of the house -- as well as for convenience while working or reading. Flip the screen up, no kickstand (or easel ) required. A real keyboard. More protected/durable, bigger screen, DVD drive, USB, etc, not to mention an OS I can get real work done on. I do do a lot of reading on a computer -- but I can already tell you from holding up my Android watching movies that I hate holding things up in my hands. I never did it with books if I could possibly avoid it and there's no way I'm going to do it with a reader or slate. I have no idea why anyone would even make a pad or slate without a kickstand. (It's the one thing that I really wish my Android had. But it was free, so, you know. Hopefully in two years, the mobile phone industry will have wised up. Until then, I have a little easel I made out of a small box. It's not pretty but it works for holding the phone when I'm watching something or shooting video while playing guitar, etc.) And then there's the touch screen thing. My skin's very dry and I wash my hands a lot because I hate feeling like there's any kind of oil, grease, dirt, etc. on them -- yet I still find myself cleaning the screen a lot, even when I haven't had it pressed up against my face (which also has very dry skin, for that matter). Touch screen's fine for a phone (I had a BB and the micro-chiclet keys sucked, even for a guy with small fingers -- Swype's problematic enough -- though helpful, as it requires less precision than single letters -- of course a slate would offer a much more comfortable sized v-keypad, so the size thing wouldn't be an issue) and I can see how it could be pretty nice for something like a virtual mixing control surface -- that seems like a semi-compelling use -- except that I already have a real control surface with 9 faders and knobs (and 3 v-banks) and I never use it. (Other folks swear by control surfaces, though, of course, so I'm sure that's a compelling use for them -- and the greater flexibility, the ability to use different v-control surface apps would be pretty sweet, I think... if I even used my control surface. Which I don't.) So, for now, I just don't have a single good excuse. And I'd need one. And for me, who does photography, seeing a photo that is 9" across, as well as being able to back up my SD cards from my camera, would also be really useful. And then possibly reading books and magazines or maybe watching movies on a trip as well. These are the things that seem appealing to me personally. Now that sounds like a good excuse. Seems like the ideal would be a cam with a wi fi interface so you could quickly and easily network the cam to the iPad or other slate. (If I had a Mac, of course, I'd get an iPad -- but I'd certainly wait until they've filled in the feature set a little more, I think.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 1, 2011 Members Share Posted February 1, 2011 It's a good excuse, sure, but I still haven't gotten one. Understand that while I'm hardly opposed to these devices - no, I actually find it interesting - I still live in the past. Have hardly had a cellphone and rarely use the $10 thing now that I do, no iPod, no virtual software that didn't come with the DAW....really, very few gizmos. I'm not really a Luddite. I just don't get around to getting 'em, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted February 2, 2011 Members Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sacrilege! How dare you have a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gdoubleyou Posted February 2, 2011 Members Share Posted February 2, 2011 will be getting one of the 2nd generation iPads, mostly to control Logic, also interested some of musical apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted February 3, 2011 Members Share Posted February 3, 2011 I already got one, and I'm glad I have one because Android fanboys can say they're gonna eventually get the apps, but I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted February 3, 2011 Members Share Posted February 3, 2011 I have a small place, so it's not like I need a satellite machine. A slate wouldn't replace my laptop -- and I prefer the clamshell form factor for a machine that goes out of the house -- as well as for convenience while working or reading. See, as someone who's been using an iPhone for a couple of years, I now feel that in most situations a laptop is LESS convenient than an iPad would be. I never would've believed it either... but for the majority of the situations where I use the iPhone, you don't need a keyboard for more than typing a few words if that. It's soooo convenient to just pull it out of my pocket and use it. No having to set it down on a table or flip up a screen or plug it in or boot it up. For doing a lot of writing, sure it's less convenient, but I still use the laptop for that. I do know a couple of writers who use the virtual keyboard on the iPad for serious writing, and they say they like it just fine and it might even reduce the chance of them getting carpal tunnel (the touch screen certainly seems better in that respect than a mouse or trackball!) Flip the screen up, no kickstand (or easel ) required. A real keyboard. I don't really care if I have to use a kickstand or plug in an external keyboard for those few times when I'd really need it. Like I say... most of the apps I use require little typing and I can just stand where I am, or sit on a train, and use my iPhone. It's as simple as whipping out a pen and notepad - absolutely no fuss about it. More protected/durable, bigger screen, DVD drive, USB, etc, not to mention an OS I can get real work done on. Supposedly the iPad 2 will have USB. As for the OS, I hear ya as far as getting programming work done, but it does come standard with an Office-type suite, which means you can certainly get writing done and lots of other routine tasks. And the iPhone, for me, is awesome for songwriting, because you've got a multitrack recorder right in your pocket all the time. I do do a lot of reading on a computer -- but I can already tell you from holding up my Android watching movies that I hate holding things up in my hands. I never did it with books if I could possibly avoid it and there's no way I'm going to do it with a reader or slate. LOL... OK. An iPad you can hold in your lap, put it on a table, etc. I do a lot of reading in bed on my iPhone and I love not having to have a reading lamp on. Touch screen's fine for a phone (I had a BB and the micro-chiclet keys sucked, even for a guy with small fingers -- Swype's problematic enough -- though helpful, as it requires less precision than single letters -- of course a slate would offer a much more comfortable sized v-keypad, so the size thing wouldn't be an issue) and I can see how it could be pretty nice for something like a virtual mixing control surface -- that seems like a semi-compelling use -- except that I already have a real control surface with 9 faders and knobs (and 3 v-banks) and I never use it. (Other folks swear by control surfaces, though, of course, so I'm sure that's a compelling use for them -- and the greater flexibility, the ability to use different v-control surface apps would be pretty sweet, I think... if I even used my control surface. Which I don't.) I have a couple of mixers, but I still love the touch screen DAW idea, and not just because of the mixer but using it to draw envelopes, pinch EQ curves and other such things. It's just something that feels very intuitive to me, as does the multi-touchscreen interface in general. So, I think the iPad 2 with USB, the hi-res graphics and dual cameras like the iPhone 4, will be great for me. So I'm glad I have the excuse of developing for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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