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Are there any cheap copies of the Byrdland?


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Lately i've been gassing for an archtop bad and when looking through some ebay auctions i came across a byrdland.

 

I love the fact that it is a huge guitar with that les paul like cutaway. Something about it really appeals to me. I would love to get a similar guitar and turn it into a metal/hard rock beast.

 

Unfortunately i'm pretty broke. Can anyone point me to some cheap alternatives?

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I don't think you're going to get a copy of a Byrdland cheap. They're a deluxe model for Gibson. Also, they're short scale guitars (23.5" scale length). Hardly anybody makes a hollowbody with that short of a scale length. Also don't forget that the Byrdland is a thinline (not full depth) hollowbody in the vein of the semi-hollow ES-335. A few hollowbodies have been made by various manufacturers as thinlines, but almost all of them have the rounded venetian cutaway. If you're talking Squier priced, the closest I know of, is the Jay Turser JT-139T:

 

http://www.jayturser.com/jt-139t.php

 

They run about $350-$450 new. But, realize that they have P90s. P90s are cool, but if you don't like them you'll either have to do some work to the guitar, the get it to take full sized humbuckers, or install a set of mini-humbuckers (which oftentimes will in P90 pickup holes, without needing to enlarge the holes). Realize that Jay Tursers occasionally need to have work done to them.

 

If you insist upon fully hollow, and don't mind ventian cutaways, you might be able to find one of these used, or as a B-stock.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Samick-JZ1-Hollow-Body-Electric-Guitar-/380241290898?pt=Guitar&hash=item588825a692

 

But it's still not uber cheap. But at around $700 or $800, it's a lot cheaper than a Byrdland (which runs several thousand dollars).

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Ellen thanks for the info. I actually like short scale guitars. For some reason i just have a need to turn a big hollowbody looking thing into a metal/rock guitar and i came across this on ebay and fell in love

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280604789905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

Still can't afford that though...

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Ellen thanks for the info. I actually like short scale guitars. For some reason i just have a need to turn a big hollowbody looking thing into a metal/rock guitar and i came across this on ebay and fell in love


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280604789905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Still can't afford that though...

 

Yeah, short scale guitars are OK. I used to have a Fender Jaguar, that I used to play anything but surf guitar on. It was a fun guitar. Sorry to say, it's looking like you're going to have to save your cash for the few thinline hollowbodies out there. If you're willing to put up with a venetian cutway, 24.75" scale lengths, and a deeper body, I've seen and tried out used Ibanez AF75s going for $175, that may satisfy your GAS.

 

577985.jpg

 

They can rip pretty good. Here's a guy going nuts on one:

 

[video=youtube;WPYS96IMA3I]

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Ellen thanks for the info. I actually like short scale guitars. For some reason i just have a need to turn a big hollowbody looking thing into a metal/rock guitar and i came across this on ebay and fell in love


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280604789905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Still can't afford that though...

 

That Silvertone has modified to have that cutaway...

 

Here's a few interesting budget axes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Johnson-JH-440-Hollowbody-Las-Vegas-Electric-Guitar-/350423219899?pt=Guitar&hash=item5196d9febb

http://cgi.ebay.com/Oscar-Schmidt-OE-40-Hollowbody-Electric-Guitar-/320631962326?pt=Guitar&hash=item4aa7277ad6

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOLLOWBODY-JAZZ-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-GOLD-VINTAGE-SUNBURST-/350181204037?pt=Guitar&hash=item51886d2045

 

Assume these will need a good set-up and you may, eventually, want to upgrade the electronics, but they're kinda what you're looking for...

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On 12/19/2010 at 11:29 AM, EllenGtrGrl said:

 

Ellen thanks for the info. I actually like short scale guitars. For some reason i just have a need to turn a big hollowbody looking thing into a metal/rock guitar and i came across this on ebay and fell in love
   
Still can't afford that though...

 

 

Yeah, short scale guitars are OK. I used to have a Fender Jaguar, that I used to play anything but surf guitar on. It was a fun guitar. Sorry to say, it's looking like you're going to have to save your cash for the few thinline hollowbodies out there. If you're willing to put up with a venetian cutway, 24.75" scale lengths, and a deeper body, I've seen and tried out used Ibanez AF75s going for $175, that may satisfy your GAS.

 

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/9/8/5/577985.jpg

 

They can rip pretty good. Here's a guy going nuts on one:

 

[video=youtube;WPYS96IMA3I]

I have an older AF95: wonderful build, lovely... but stock pickups were blah. Got a pair of Parson street humbuckers from StewMac (about $100) and OMG did that make a huge difference. Would have a killer for relatively little cash.

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13 hours ago, humbuckerstrat said:

Ted Nugent needs to get Epiphone to make a budget Ted Nugent Signature Byrdland.

 

 

Epiphone still makes the Broadway.

Guild has the X175 Manhattan, Savoy's and Starfire's

Ibanez still makes the George Benson model.

Good enough for jazz music.:D

 

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1 hour ago, Mikeo said:

 

 

Epiphone still makes the Broadway.

Guild has the X175 Manhattan, Savoy's and Starfire's

Ibanez still makes the George Benson model.

Good enough for jazz music.:D

 

I looked at a Byrdland years ago but to me the short scale was a deal breaker. I think it was 23 1/5 “amp 

I would actually prefer the Broadway 

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Hi everyone .  The topic is my obsession.  I owned a copy of Epiphone which unfortunately I exchanged for an acoustic of equal value ... damn how much I still regret it !!  anyway ... there is no way to find a copy with the same scale ... because that's what interests me and I can't understand why it's not possible to produce a model at an affordable price ... oh ... also  1000 or more, I'm not saying it must cost 500 dollars but you know ... anyway I've been trying to get information for years but so far no news ... let's hope

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