Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 ***IMPORTANT! GFS is aware of the issues and I'm waiting to hear back from them about receiving a replacement. Still, I've ordered from them several times before and am shocked at how poor the QC on this is. Please no bashing, name-calling, or childish super-dickery.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Pt. 2: The worn neck edges and the swirls were hardest to capture. The strangest thing about the fretmarks is that some frets look fine and some look like they're off a Roadworn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm sorry it's not to so happy for you, but I see this a lot and I don't understand what people expect in a bargain import guitar. How much did you pay for this? I mean, I don't see anything there that renders this unplayable, with the exception of what appears to be two frets that are of a different height(?). While there are blemishes, you're getting a guitar that is the cheapest of the cheap... how high can it's standards possibly be, enough for you to come online and post pictures of it for the world to see (which, no matter how you phrase it, is either bashing or a threat to their image) instead of just contacting them and letting them handle the situation. You're getting incredible value for your money that would be unheard of 20, even 15 years ago, despite a few scratches and cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TraumaRN Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 The little dings don't really matter. The gap in the neck pocket makes it completely unacceptable in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 K - I'm w/ you. Unless something was listed as B stock - I would not put up with it. If something, anything is sold as new - that is what I expect. No blems, scratches, cracks. I would get you a Lamb Chop rating, but she is whimpering under the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm sorry it's not to so happy for you, but I see this a lot and I don't understand what people expect in a bargain import guitar. How much did you pay for this? I mean, I don't see anything there that renders this unplayable, with the exception of what appears to be two frets that are of a different height(?). While there are blemishes, you're getting a guitar that is the cheapest of the cheap... how high can it's standards possibly be, enough for you to come online and post pictures of it for the world to see (which, no matter how you phrase it, is either bashing or a threat to their image) instead of just contacting them and letting them handle the situation. You're getting incredible value for your money that would be unheard of 20, even 15 years ago, despite a few scratches and cracks. I've purchased several instruments from GFS before and have previously recommended them to students who need an affordable and playable alternative. Prior instruments had none of these issues and your argument about price is ridiculous. I ordered a product (I actually used to own this exact model in Seafoam) that I was familiar with and got a what was pictured above. (This was a gift from my mum, BTW... who was really disappointed in how it turned out.) I've recommended Xaviere to students many times before and imagine how disappointing it would be for a kid with his first guitar! Jay and Co. are going to make it right and when they do I'll post pics of that as well. It works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 That's the one they used to swat the rats in the factory, real killer axe. That should buff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pilon Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Was that one of the recent GFS blem blow outs (I hope)? If not doesnt matter what you paid that is unacceptable! At any pricepoint that is crappy workmanship, and shouldnt have passed QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Was that one of the recent GFS blem blow outs (I hope)? If not doesnt matter what you paid that is unacceptable! At any pricepoint that is crappy workmanship, and shouldnt have passed QC. Not a blem. As for the money amount, I have a pretty big collection with expensive pieces and not so expensive ones... my old XV filled a niche perfectly and I shouldn't have gotten rid of it. I know that Jay and Dave will make it right, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pilon Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Jay has a great reputation for making good on customer problems, but it seems as though a bit of slightly higher QC would be in order to prevent guitars such as that slipping through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Preacher Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Bummer. Odds of this thread not ending well...ah, I'll give ya 67%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Bummer. Odds of this thread not ending well...ah, I'll give ya 67%. Hopefully we can just be sure this doesn't end up back in circulation without at least being marked "B-Stock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members harold heckuba Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Man, that thing is rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Hopefully we can just be sure this doesn't end up back in circulation without at least being marked "B-Stock." I think that's more like BS stock. Unacceptable, no matter what price it is. Hope he makes it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pak066 Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm sorry it's not to so happy for you, but I see this a lot and I don't understand what people expect in a bargain import guitar. How much did you pay for this? I mean, I don't see anything there that renders this unplayable, with the exception of what appears to be two frets that are of a different height(?). While there are blemishes, you're getting a guitar that is the cheapest of the cheap... how high can it's standards possibly be, enough for you to come online and post pictures of it for the world to see (which, no matter how you phrase it, is either bashing or a threat to their image) instead of just contacting them and letting them handle the situation. You're getting incredible value for your money that would be unheard of 20, even 15 years ago, despite a few scratches and cracks. im with you all the way on this one...you get what you pay for. im sorry the guitar was not up to your standards and the neck thing is a bit much to be shipping out and agree with you on that aspect...but really?? "my $150 guitar has some surface paint swirls!! what is this??" i mean really, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GilmourD Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm positive that Jay will make it right. That's Jay's schtick. He's like the Mike Holmes of inexpensive guitar stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JRicoC Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wait until you hear from GFS. I'd be surprised if that was not a mis-marled B-stock item ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 im with you all the way on this one...you get what you pay for. im sorry the guitar was not up to your standards and the neck thing is a bit much to be shipping out and agree with you on that aspect...but really?? "my $150 guitar has some surface paint swirls!! what is this??" i mean really, I have a $110 SX that doesn't have those issues. Should I aim in-between $111 and $174 when buying instruments? Sorry, but when you buy an instrument you expect it to be in good condition. I can accept some finish flaws or some excess pickguard material, but when you combine that with bad fretwork, gaps in the neck pocket, and an improperly cut nut it's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pak066 Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have a $110 SX that doesn't have those issues. Should I aim in-between $111 and $174 when buying instruments? Sorry, but when you buy an instrument you expect it to be in good condition. I can accept some finish flaws or some excess pickguard material, but when you combine that with bad fretwork, gaps in the neck pocket, and an improperly cut nut it's a different story. i agree. yours is a bit messed up more then others. and i would do the same as you if i were in your situation. just saying in general, some people get bent out of shape for little things on inexpensive guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoobdo Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 i was going through all the pictures waiting for one of the actual full guitar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 i was going through all the pictures waiting for one of the actual full guitar... Didn't really matter, since it's going back. But if I'm not snowed in tomorrow I'll snap one for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 So this is a less than $200 guitar?If so, "your out of your mind" complaining about these issues................."What do you expect?" ......."You get what you pay for".http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-820-Single-Cutaway-Solid-Body_c_157.htmlWant sonmething better, cough up a few hundred more and at least get a MIM Tele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 So this is a less than $200 guitar? If so, "your out of your mind" complaining about these issues................. "What do you expect?" ......."You get what you pay for". http://www.guitarfetish.com/XV-820-Single-Cutaway-Solid-Body_c_157.html Want sonmething better, cough up a few hundred more and at least get a MIM Tele I don't want something "better." I want exactly what I ordered in acceptable condition. You must be pretty thick to not understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Indiana Tones Posted January 11, 2011 Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Does it play? I really do believe you get what you pay for. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted January 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2011 Does it play? I really do believe you get what you pay for. Just saying. This one does not. My other Xaviere's did/do. Again, I understand that this is not a boutique or high end model and I'm not unreasonable about flaws. But this PARTICULAR guitar is not in acceptable condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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