Members CompleteGuitard Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 So my lovely fiancee bought me a brand new Gretsch 6136T for our engagement present. It is essentially my dream guitar, totally impractical and fabulously over the top. I'm super excited, ETA is March 1st and I am going to go nuts waiting that long. However, I have one concern. The bridge is the "Ebony Based Space Control Roller Bridge", which I don't think is pinned. I tend to bash on my guitars pretty hard, and I am concerned about the unattached bridge moving around while I'm playing it or when I'm changing strings. I've heard it's possible to pin it, but with the current bridge not controlling the intonation, isn't this asking for problems? I'm not against changing to a tune-o-matic, but I didn't consider this until after the guitar had been ordered. I'm kind of concerned a 3800 dollar guitar is going to have intonation problems, or am I just overthinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeBoy Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 Play it and see what happens. I would keep it dead stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 Bridge won't budge while you are playing. It will just fall right off without strings on there to hold it in place, so change one string at a time. It's an archaic guitar design, you take the bad with the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rick 381 Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 You don't "bash" on a White Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 HNotSoSoonToArriveNGD! but with the current bridge not controlling the intonation, isn't this asking for problems? I'm kind of concerned a 3800 dollar guitar is going to have intonation problems, or am I just overthinking? Not really. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CompleteGuitard Posted January 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 You don't "bash" on a White Falcon. Don't get me wrong, I don't mistreat them at all. But I also don't sit quietly and play jazz in a coffee shop I play rock and strum heavily Even setzer 'bashes' away on his falcons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I've yet to move the floating bridge on my archtop and it's an acoustic that you have to bash pretty hard. it shouldn't move. Leave that monster stock and play it. And I just want to say that I hate you. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 Even setzer 'bashes' away on his falcons He probably gets his for free though haha. Go easy on her. I'm not a big fan of the look of Gretsch stuff but man, I'd take a White Falcon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CompleteGuitard Posted January 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I've yet to move the floating bridge on my archtop and it's an acoustic that you have to bash pretty hard. it shouldn't move. Leave that monster stock and play it. And I just want to say that I hate you. EG Well, I'm happy to hear yours doesn't move at all. And I'd hate me too if I wasn't me I'm a very lucky man. Now I've just got to practice my "e-boogie" [Youtube]Sl3mM1Cvvo0&NR=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 Play it and see what happens. I would keep it dead stock. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I KEEED....I KEEEEED.... Keep that bad boy stock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CompleteGuitard Posted January 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't know, I was thinking about putting a floyd and a locking nut on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 you lucky {censored}. congrats on the engagement! your fianc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't know, I was thinking about putting a floyd and a locking nut on it. That just ain't EVEN funny. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanderwaal Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't know, I was thinking about putting a floyd and a locking nut on it. yeah, not funny at all. seriously though. you shouldn't have any problem with it moving around. i have 5120 with a floating bridge and i play hard and i think i've only knocked out of tune once but that was my own dumb fault. oh yeah, i hate you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeBoy Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 WOW the only time anyone seems to agree. A great moment in HCEG Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'm kind of concerned a 3800 dollar guitar is going to have intonation problems, or am I just overthinking? I wouldn't call it over thinking, I'd call it crazy. I wouldn't touch a thing on that guitar and leave it totally stock. The bridge will stay in place by string pressure. Put some painters tape on it when changing strings if you want to avoid adjusting intonation with each string change. Oh and congrats. It's sort of a dream guitar of mine just because they are so beautiful, but I'm not tempted to buy one because I tend to neglect my bulkier guitars since I'm a lazy boy recliner rock star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onerailunder Posted January 12, 2011 Members Share Posted January 12, 2011 Easy answer. Double stick tape that isn't industrial strength and won't pull the finish off your guitar should you wish to remove it later. Congrats, beautiful guit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Easy answer. Double stick tape that isn't industrial strength and won't pull the finish off your guitar should you wish to remove it later. Congrats, beautiful guit. Yes... that's exactly what the guitar needs, some nice sticky, spongy plastic right were a lot of the strings vibration is transfered to the body. Dang, I wonder why Gretsch come up with such a fantastic solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Kieth Scott rocked a white falcon hard with Bryan Adams back in the old days. Think he's using his sig model ,strats and gibsons these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 A lot of people, myself included (when I had a floating bridge guitar), intonate the guitar then, ever so slightly, mark a line along the bridge with a pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wulver Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I don't mistreat them at all. But I also don't sit quietly and play jazz in a coffee shop I play rock and strum heavily Even setzer 'bashes' away on his falcons And keep in mind, Neil has owned his for going on 40 years, it's still intact, and we know how HE handles guitars.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onerailunder Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Yes... that's exactly what the guitar needs, some nice sticky, spongy plastic right were a lot of the strings vibration is transfered to the body. Dang, I wonder why Gretsch come up with such a fantastic solution? Google it, only about a bajillion folks have done it. Perhaps you're thinking of the double stick adhesive foam to hold up dorm room posters rather than the cellophane stuff? I've seen arch top bridges with felt on their underside to protect the guitar's finish, and other folks that have removed the finish under an arch top bridge for better tone. Regardless, It's a pretty easily reversible suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flatspotter Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 It's your guitar, man. Bash it if you want to, put a new bridge on it if you want to. I have a Gretsch 5120, and the bridge moved around with hard strumming (dare I say "bashing"?) when I had 9s on it. I moved up to 10s, and the added tension is enough to keep it in place. I may pin it one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Google it, only about a bajillion folks have done it. Perhaps you're thinking of the double stick adhesive foam to hold up dorm room posters rather than the cellophane stuff? I've seen arch top bridges with felt on their underside to protect the guitar's finish, and other folks that have removed the finish under an arch top bridge for better tone. Regardless, It's a pretty easily reversible suggestion. I thought used a couple of straight pins to keep it in the same spot. Still, putting a couple of pin holes int the top is something I wouldn't do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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