Members BlackCat Posted January 23, 2011 Members Share Posted January 23, 2011 Admittedly this is purely subjective, but since I started figuring out horn lines on the guitar, I feel like I have a better ear for melody. I seem to be able to pick things up faster and with better accuracy. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alexbiscuit Posted January 23, 2011 Members Share Posted January 23, 2011 all i can add is that this widely accepted as a very good trick for developing phrasing due to the fact that horn players have to take breaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted January 23, 2011 Members Share Posted January 23, 2011 ^^^^ Indeed. VERY cool advice. Blues lead guitarists -- try stealing harmonica licks (Little Walter, Sonny Boy Williamson, Howlin' Wolf --a MUCH underrated harp player -- and Paul Butterfield represent GREAT places to start) for the very same reason. Rhythm guitarists -- in rock, blues, funk, soul, reggae or anything else which is about a bodily pleasure-beat -- should try to imagine dancers ... and try to give those dancers as much reason as possible to get seriously crazy. (Then, at a gig, you can have BIG FUN watching them have THEIR Big Fun.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alexbiscuit Posted January 23, 2011 Members Share Posted January 23, 2011 ive also learned that for playing funk guitar, it sounds 1000x cooler without the pick raking back and forth like the typical cheesy funk sound. less is more concerning the topic: i also think your ear development has something to do with removing the instrumental element and having it be more about the music instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackCat Posted January 24, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 ...concerning the topic: i also think your ear development has something to do with removing the instrumental element and having it be more about the music instead. That makes sense to me. I'm not trying to figure out what position the guys is in or what fret he's playing at. I'm just listening for the note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emory Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 makes sense to pickup melody from insturments that can only play one note at a time (usually). learn from everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members egelmett Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 Rhythm guitarists -- in rock, blues, funk, soul, reggae or anything else which is about a bodily pleasure-beat -- should try to imagine dancers ... and try to give those dancers as much reason as possible to get seriously crazy. I never thought of it like that! Wow! Thank you! I'll keep that in mind! Any like visualizations for bass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 Absolutely...I've been doing a lot of the exact same thing and feel I've learned and progressed a ton since figuring out horn parts. Keyboard stuff as well, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 This sort of thing really helps. Translating other instruments to guitar can get you out of those cliched fingering patterns we guitarists fall into. I also like to mimic vocal parts on guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 totally agree, its way to easy to get stuck in the pentatonic rut. and thats what you dont hear in horn lines.. they jump notes with such fluidity and have a greater expressive quality more like a human voice.. and know when to place pauses and all that important stuff.. that as guitarist some times we take for granted.. sax is also somthing that is neat to emulate there is a energy that is not really present in gutar playing.. weird 2 note patterns in fast cadence weird off time melodies.. it can become hell if you listen to C Parker, or coltrain though.. jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 This is one of those things that I read about years ago and didn't apply; then I started doing it a bit and it helped a ton....then I got stuck into a stupid rut where my note selection was based on thinking and not on feel. The other night I was playing and came up with some stuff that kind of sounded like a violin part and it got me thinking about this again. I don't snag specific runs from songs, but I try to get my phrasing to sound a lot more vocal like by thinking about horns or violins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hubert Stumblin Posted January 24, 2011 Members Share Posted January 24, 2011 Agreed with all the above. It's always a good idea to approach phrasing in terms of horns or harp or singing. Since they depend on breathing I think it really "breaths life" into guitar playing. Plus, they make use of intervals that we as guitar players find to be "outside the box" so-to-speak. Always a good way to open your ears and expand your vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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