Reverb into Delay or Delay into Reverb?

[Meowy]

pedals in front of the amp, no effects loop

 

Reverb into Delay

 

or

 

Delay into Reverb

 

 

which order and why?

[Grantus]

I've usually seen it delay into reverb. Don't know why.

[billybilly]

I don't think it matters. Try both.

[TomCray]

How are you using your reverb? If it's just a light touch then IMO doesn't matter. If it's drenched Sigur Ros stuff then it matters. Even then it depends on the application and they both sound alright.

[DaleH]

delay> reverb> compresser ?

[kayd_mon]

Delay into reverb for me. Well, I've never owned a reverb pedal; however, I don't use FX loops. My amp has reverb, and the delay goes in front of that. I like how it sounds. For me reverb is only very subtle. If you're drenching stuff, it might be better to put your delay after the reverb.

[DaveAronow]

The answer is YES.

 

Next question....

[GAS Man]

Okay, now everyone write this down because it comes from "THE BOOK"

 

Guitar -> Octave - Noise Suppressor(option A) - Compressor - Distortion - Equalizer - Modulation -Noise Suppressor(option B if modulation is used) - Volume Pedal - Delay - Chorus - Reverb -> Amp

 

With these notes:

 

Effect units that detect an envelope, such as octave, should be connected close to the guitar.

 

Connect EQ after your distortion so you can totally shape your sound

 

Connect reverb units toward the end of the chain for maximum effect

 

Connect a volume pedal before delay effects so that the volume can be lowered without cutting off the reverberation. If connected before the distortion pedal, the volume pedal controls the distortion intensity (which you may want to do instead)

 

Connect a noise suppressor to remove distortion and modulation noise.

 

Now those of course are the general rules and switching some of those around can create sounds that may be desirable for some other changes to resulting tones.

[Brujo13]

I have both in mine

[mhuxtable]

General practice has the delay before the reverb. I play my reverb before my delay. Try both and see what you like best...there is no right or wrong.

[GAS Man]

P.S. Meowy, "THE BOOK" also has this one other footnote to the flow chart which I didn't write down since it seems kinda "huh?" to me, but it does address your specific -

 

It says - "Decide where to connect chorus/delay/reverb by careful monitoring of the resulting sound". So the above is just their general rule.

 

 

"THE BOOK" by the way, comes from "The Boss", i.e. the good pedal people at Boss (i.e Roland).

[Meowy]

P.S. Meowy, "THE BOOK" also has this one other footnote to the flow chart which I didn't write down since it seems kinda "huh?" to me, but it does address your specific - It says - "Decide where to connect chorus/delay/reverb by careful monitoring of the resulting sound". So the above is just their general rule. "THE BOOK" by the way, comes from "The Boss", i.e. the good pedal people at Boss (i.e Roland).

 

 

I'm finding that delay then reverb sounds better to me. I am using a Biyang AD-8 delay and a BOSS FRV-1.

 

thx

[DaveAronow]

Book, schmook. There is no wrong answer. It just depends on what you are trying to achieve. Putting delay on a signal already processed with reverb will create different results than the other way around. There are all SORTS of other variables which really add to the complication of a straight forward answer, like what kind of reverb are you putting on the delay, is it stereo delay, are you putting reverb on both sides, or just one? What kind of delay? What settings? What parameters? There is absolutely no wrong or right way. Just depends what overall "effect" you are trying to achieve. Dont know what you are trying to achieve? Then experiment till you find what sounds good to you, and there is your answer. I personally know if there was a law that said one way was right and one way was wrong, I would probably slash my wrists because I would be so depressed about the boredom certain to ensue after finding I have to be stuck with only one option. GOD that would SUCK! Anyone that claims any one way is more right than the other without talking about some specific result, simply does not know of which they speak. Both ways have been used in infinite configurations throughout the history of their existence and recorded examples of each can be heard anywhere you seek to find them. You can answer your own question by building a mental library of what different configurations of effects sound like just by experimenting. That way, next time you hear an effect in your head you think will sound good on a certain part , you already know how to get it.

[StevenJM]

reverb should be last since it adds a constant tail to your tone. if you put it before a distortion pedal, then you're distorting your signal AND the echo, so it'll just sound mushed up and sloppy, same with the delay, the delay will repeat your guitar signal AND the echo... you'll lose a lot of definition of what your playing.

 

but i guess it depends on your band's set up, you could come up with some cool sounds by reversing the chain of pedals.

[Special J]

I've always done delay into reverb so that the delay tails will still get verbed even after you turn the delay off.

[Mesa/Kramer]

Pretty much useless using reverb or Deley into the front of the amp unless your using a pretty much clean sound or clean amp boosted.

[IBDBB]

reverb into delay for me.
Delay is always last in my chain.

[fretmonster]

I don't know because I get my reverb from my delay pedal. After I got my Damage Control Timeline pedal, my Holy Grail Reverb just sounded like ass in comparison. I think my other delay (BBE Two Timer) even makes a better reverb.

[GAS Man]

 

Book, schmook. There is no wrong answer. It just depends on what you are trying to achieve. Putting delay on a signal already processed with reverb will create different results than the other way around.

 

 

Blasphemer! That was covered in the good book my son. Now Repent!

 

 

 

 

 

 

(P.S. do you lean towards literal interpretations?)

[GAS Man]

I don't know because I get my reverb from my delay pedal. After I got my Damage Control Timeline pedal, my Holy Grail Reverb just sounded like ass in comparison. I think my other delay (BBE Two Timer) even makes a better reverb.

 

I like to do that sometimes too. In fact a while ago, I picked up a vintage Ibanez AD9, and it is great for creating a very nice reverb effect. It's very analog sounding so it has a real echo-ey sound to it, much like reverb. I bought it off of ebay and it came complete with multiple paint chips and a missing battery clip. Score!

 

[pixelchemist]

like others have stated... there is no right or wrong way... generally though verb before delay kinda washes everything out unless its very sparingly used... i run verb after delay almost always.

[Jon Chappell]

 

I've always done delay into reverb so that the delay tails will still get verbed even after you turn the delay off.

 

 

^^^ This. Though of course you can do anything you want if you're seeking a special effect or if you just want to be contrarian. There's nothing harmful, electronically or otherwise, in re-ordering the delay and reverb so all we are arguing is generalities and personal taste.

 

My take is that a delay is often dealing with discrete repetitions of the sound while the reverb "smears" the sound (but in a good, natural way). It makes more sense to hit the delay with a purer signal and then have that sound reverberated (spread out in time and space) than the other way around. A reverb sort of "weakens" the signal--but, again, in a natural, entropic, and desirable way--so it makes sense to have it be last in the chain. (Or at least following the delay.) And, as some have noted, should you want to put a volume pedal between the delay and reverb (regardless of order) it makes more sense to go delay>volume>reverb than the other way around.

[Prages]

I generally put the reverb at the end of the chain, with only the lead boost coming after the reverb.

[BrokenFighter]

I've been wondering the same thing.

I've been switching them up because I like both in different situations.

I think I might just have to buy an extra set of reverb and delay pedals so I can do both.

[jrockbridge]

I usually put reverb last. But, I rarely use delay and reverb at the same time, so it's not critical for me. I just rewired my board and switched the order to (reverb > delay) because it just happened to be easier to wire it that way.