Members Still.ill Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 ive been playing for about 3 years..... im decent at fast legato licks, fast alternate picking on one string (usually the high E string lol), and some tapping can't sweep at all i can't do anything that gilbert/vai/malmsteen/satch does (never even tried learning their stuff at all)and yet my friends always think i play like them http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=1046030&songID=10391823 javascript:Player('/player/single_player.cfm?q=hi&songID=10391823'); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MephistoE Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 Seriously non-guitarists/musicians can easily be fooled you are OMGWTFLOLZAMAZING by just simple tremolo picking with like 5 notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Still.ill Posted March 13, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 tru dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 Which is why knowing how to shred is always less important than good song-writing skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CoqBelliqueux Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 Which is why knowing how to shred is always less important than good song-writing skills gne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 gne 'tf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fu2jobu Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 Which is why knowing how to shred is always less important than good song-writing skills Yeah, much less important. Though I am envious of the little bitches that can really shred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MephistoE Posted March 13, 2011 Members Share Posted March 13, 2011 Words of wisdom I try to live by is it isn't always the notes you play, it's the ones you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phaeton Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Words of wisdom I try to live by is it isn't always the notes you play, it's the ones you don't.Same is true with shredding. In blues solos there are 25 notes that you don't play, in shredding, it's 250 notes you don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 its amazing how easy it is to fool people to think that "shredders" can playThere, fixed it for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stackabones Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sounds like you had your first taste of shredder cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sounds like you had your first taste of shredder cheese. I abandoned shredder cheese a long time ago. I much prefer blue cheese nowadays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yep, this thread is very true. I think freebird is a good example of this. Played it last night and while it's not a hard lead and all just pentatonic wankery with basic repetitive hammer on/pull-offs, people always think it's the hardest thing ever to play. Another example is the standard high E 12th fret, then hammer on to the B 15th fret and pull off to the B 12th fret (or whatever key you're in...). Play that over and over and over and over a bunch of times and it amazes people. Simple little licks like that are great crowd pleasers that are easy to play and fool the crowd into thinking you actually know what you're doing. Doesn't take much to please or fool a crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 For sure. I think people think (lots of non musicians) that if you can play a song, any song, you're decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fu2jobu Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 For sure. I think people think (lots of non musicians) that if you can play a song, any song, you're decent. Thank god for that and the fact that a lot of women can forgo looks for personality when looking for a guy. Now if if I could just find a personality I would be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thank god for that and the fact that a lot of women can forgo looks for personality when looking for a guy. Now if if I could just find a personality I would be set.I know right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snappy Hat Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yep, this thread is very true. I think freebird is a good example of this. Played it last night and while it's not a hard lead and all just pentatonic wankery with basic repetitive hammer on/pull-offs, people always think it's the hardest thing ever to play. Another example is the standard high E 12th fret, then hammer on to the B 15th fret and pull off to the B 12th fret (or whatever key you're in...). Play that over and over and over and over a bunch of times and it amazes people. Simple little licks like that are great crowd pleasers that are easy to play and fool the crowd into thinking you actually know what you're doing. Doesn't take much to please or fool a crowd. Yep or watch concert footage of what gets the crowd yelling. A lot of times its just a long sustained note as longas you make facial expressions that emulate that you just gave birth to a large something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yep or watch concert footage of what gets the crowd yelling. A lot of times its just a long sustained note as longas you make facial expressions that emulate that you just gave birth to a large something. lol...yeah, that too! I do that one a lot too. I'll bend a note up and pick it over and over while using some vibrato. I do a ton of little tricks and licks like that which always get the crowd's attention and fools them into thinking you know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 The question is, though, can you play in time, in key and in harmony with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 fool people? You can slice cheese. You can carefully carve cheese into the shape of a duck. Or you can shred the cheese. The term is indicative of an APPROACH, not a specific technique. Therefore if tremolo picking one note is your example then guess what - you're "shredding" that note. The only "fooling" going on is you fooling yourself that you're not actually shredding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 The question is, though, can you play in time, in key and in harmony with others. And the answer in my case is, sadly, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorganB Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sounds good. Ozzy said he always used too always tell Randy when it comes time for a wild lead, don't play what is hardest complicated lead, play what sounds like it is,.... that is the only thing that comes across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 But please don't forget, Ozzy also always used to tell Randy "hey, randy! Lookit me, I'm an orangutan! OOF OOF! Pass me that cocaine!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 The question is, though, can you play in time, in key and in harmony with others. this is so over looked that its almost laughable.. some hot shot cat thinks that just cause he moves his finger fast and has a {censored} load of distort.. that he is getting over.. but if you have played a number of years you start to hear the gaps and gaffs.. among other players.. if you cant keep time or cant even venture out of that safe zone of 4/4.. it starts to be come clear... when not to play is just as important as smearing an ass load of tripplets all over the fingerboard like... well any way.. time and key... are more important then amountude or notes.. speed can be boring.. mho.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 14, 2011 Members Share Posted March 14, 2011 It's always amazed me how much time people spend judging other players, especially those outside their own particular comfort zones. Especially amazing that you mostly find this mentality in places full of "musicians" like here. Regular people care more about what beer the house has on tap than whether the guitarist alternate picks or uses legato. I should hope that anyone not having fun has put the axe down already, so I try to believe there's real emotion behind EVERY guitar playing I hear. Just because it's not my style doesn't diminish the creativity, art, ability, or talent of the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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