Members honeyiscool Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 I feel that I need a 12-string, and I need a Les Paul. Is it a good idea combining the two with something like a 12-string Agile? With the right pickups, how jangly can you get a Les Paul anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 i would so {censored}ing rock that. if you want a jangly tone, get that, and some Burstbuckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted April 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'm not sure they'd jangle enough for me. But I suppose Lace Hot Gold Dually would, in the neck position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ehh. Baby steps my man I think the Les Paul in that colour looks pretty damn badass though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted April 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Well, I had an Epi Les Paul as my second guitar, I loved that thing, I traded it for a Telecaster and as much as I liked the Tele, I missed the Les Paul. Not the tone, just the overall feel of it. This thing looks like it'd make me a man, all right. 10.5 pounds, huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fenezz Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I feel that I need a 12-string, and I need a Les Paul. Is it a good idea combining the two with something like a 12-string Agile? With the right pickups, how jangly can you get a Les Paul anyway? Ehh, I couldn't access and accentuate most of the tonal characteristics of a Les Paul that make it a Les Paul if it were a 12 string. IMO, 12 strings sound like 12 strings and I think an LP style 12 string would just sound like a 12 string more than it would a LP. Now, the thing LOOKS very cool and I'm sure it sounds good too. I just don't think it would satisfy the LP craving. I'd keep'm separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 needs gold hardware and pickup covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted April 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 Oh I know, I just want a Les Paul mainly for the look and feel, the sound, I could take it or leave it, especially since now I have two other mahogany neck mahogany body guitars. One of the problems that I've often heard about is the neck heavy nature of 12 strings, and a Les Paul design will ensure that I will never have that problem. Am I correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I've been looking at the Agile 12-string LPs. I figure they're probably the best bang-for-the-buck 12 stringers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I feel that I need a 12-string, and I need a Les Paul. Is it a good idea combining the two with something like a 12-string Agile? With the right pickups, how jangly can you get a Les Paul anyway? You might want to look at Eastwood Guitars and also the Dean Boca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I never knew they existed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 Humbuckers with 12-strings is a bad idea, IMO. Humbuckers are warm with not a lot of note attack and you want the brightness and attack with 12 strings; that's a big part of the sound. If you're looking for an electric 12-string, I'd highly recommend the Danelectro DC-12. It sounds incredible for not much $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 Humbuckers with 12 strings sound amazing. I played a PRS awhile back that had incredible tone--complex harmonics, sweet highs, firm lows--an outstanding instrument. 12 stringers get their chime from the interaction of the string vibrations where certain frequencies are cancelled and multiplied in a set pattern. You can enhance the effect by using a compressor on the front end of an amp. Also, finding the right amp is critical. Any pickup system will work with a 12 string--lipsticks, single coils, humbuckers, mini humbuckers, blade pickups--they all work fine but have a different tone. I think that guitars with air in them make for better 12 stringers, but there are exceptions (Danelectro, Rick 660--guitars with lots of maple). Don't spend a lot of $$ on a new one unless it's a real bargain. Epi made a Korean version of the Riviera 12 that went for around $400 in the '90's. That Agile might be just the ticket. Does Rondo have a 12 string semi or hollow body? (sorry, I'm lazy:-) This Elitist was made at the Terada Plant in Japan where expensive Gretsch guitars are currently made. The rhythm guitar in this track is my Riviera 12: [video=youtube;QJ2E86fcLpw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ2E86fcLpw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 Aha. For an extra $70, you can get a semi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted April 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm worried a bit about neck dive on those. I know it's something people live with but I just prefer not to have anything to do with neck dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm worried a bit about neck dive on those. I know it's something people live with but I just prefer not to have anything to do with neck dive. You'd have to try one because semi hollow guitar bodies vary wildly in terms of weight. The LP style Agile is probably OK. Rondo says that the semi 12 weighs 8 pounds which may indicate neck heaviness. Anyway, neck dive is now a thing of the past with this cool device: http://www.headsupstrap.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 I think you should get two guitars - one LP and one 12 string. Whenever I think of the latter, I think of Rickenbacker, but that might be out of your budget? There's a guy in a local band around here who regularly plays one and each time I see it, it makes me think I need one! He doesn't do jangly Byrds style stuff either - he puts it through a whole range of levels of gain and is sounds amazing. If you want a good Les Paul copy, I can't recommend the old Japanese ones highly enough - my Orville is great, but I hear Burny, Greco and older Epiphones are also very good, but I think you have to do the research to work out which. If you want to go even cheaper, the best Les Paul copy I have played around the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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