Members Vito Corleone Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 I always liked those songs. But I consider the production on both of them to be pretty cheesy. I think they could be better records if they were produced differently. Good songs are able to rise above the cheese factor. What would you have possibly done to make those records "better"? Nothing inferior or cheap about the technology in either of those tracks. They probably where as expensive and superior as anything ever recorded up to that time. It just makes them a product of their era. These records were the musical "Jurassic Park" of their day. Do the special effects in that movie look cheesy compared to what can be done with CGI today? No. Just somewhat dated. But it was groundbreaking, cutting edge, and pushing the limits of the technology at the time. A technological marvel. Those reasons alone will prevent it from ever being "cheezy" by those who know what into making it. Dated and cheesy are two different things. To me, cheesy is something that is cheesy the day you hear it. Barry Manilow doing "I Can't Smile Without You" was cheese the day it was recorded. It didn't need 30 years for the technology to become outdated to start sounding cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 You should work as comediant, you're extremly funny !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 You are all extremly funny !!! Cheesy sappy music is the only music which sells and we produce, or i would have to work in a grocery store as most of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Bryan Adams. Sting. ( yes, I said it..). To their credit, they are loaded and my broke ass is...broke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 You are all extremly funny !!!Cheesy sappy music is the only music which sells and we produce, or i would have to work in a grocery store as most of you So you dom't have to go to the grocery store to get cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Folder Posted July 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 To me, cheesy is something that is cheesy the day you hear it. Barry Manilow doing "I Can't Smile Without You" was cheese the day it was recorded. It didn't need 30 years for the technology to become outdated to start sounding cheesy. I won't argue with you on that one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark L Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 You are all extremly funny !!! Cheesy sappy music is the only music which sells and we produce, or i would have to work in a grocery store as most of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 So you dom't have to go to the grocery store to get cheese. I haven't seen a grocery store from the inside since about 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 All pop and rock is cheese, even the songs you think are not cheesy are total cheese. I you want something else in music which is not cheese, then you must listen to another genre music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffLearman Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 By the time we got to 1985, any song with the words "rock and roll" in the hook was just screaming 'cheese'. 1985? At least 10 years too late! (Remember "Rock 'n Roll Heaven? Oops, sorry to remind you. Dammit, sorry you reminded me! Talk about cheeze!) Regarding lyrics, I'm reminded of what Robby Robinson said when they wanted to list the lyrics on the album insert. "Lyrics? What? It's rock 'n roll." (Or something like that.) In any case, I still like hearing this tune. Reminds me of 7 weeks I spent in HA, with a cheap rented car with AM radio only, hearing this song and the hits from Sting's first solo album. Good times! Oh yeah, and that Mister Mister hit with lyrics borrowed from George Harrison -- another cheezy song I still enjoy. Plus TFT's Shout and Head Over Heels (I prefer the latter), and Henley's Sunset Grill. That's about all I remember: I think these were the only songs they played, all day long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 All pop and rock is cheese, even the songs you think are not cheesy are total cheese.I you want something else in music which is not cheese, then you must listen to another genre music. All genres of music have some cheese. You of all people should know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 All genres of music have some cheese. but pop is only cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 but pop is only cheese Which genre of pop? "Pop" is just short for popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimbroni Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 but pop is only cheese Cheese Flavored Pop. Billion Dollar Idea. Nacho Coke Pepsi Cheddar ---I watched the last couple episodes of the Voice, mainly because I like Christina's cleavage. But I have to say Adam Levine firmly planted himself as a DoucheBag of epic proportions. That guy is just the king of Douchebaggery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 mainly because I like Christina's cleavage. Which has also been implanted with cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffLearman Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 but pop is only cheeseAnything adored by the masses can't possibly be any good. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimbroni Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Which has also been implanted with cheese.the milk has curdled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 the milk has curdled. Those were her thighs you were looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted July 23, 2012 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2012 but pop is only cheese No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Of course anything you guy produce is not cheesy, but total serious pop or rock.Which genre of pop?For full list of pop/rock substyles visit allmusic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members techristian Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 I don't think that it is a case of cheesed out, but rather. Changing with the times. Even the Great ROLLING STONES went with disco when disco was hip. "Miss You". ,I think did rather well for the Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 To sum up: I hate the lame crap some of you guys like, but I love some of the lame crap that I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Jefferson Airplane became Jefferson Starship and went from "White Rabbit" to "We Built This City On Rock & Roll" I'm very late to this thread, but when I saw the OP, this was my first reaction as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hard Truth Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 Jefferson Starship's "We Built This City" has really become the poster-child for bad or cheezy song. It's the song that people Love To Hate. Now here's where I am mystified: I think it is an excellent record in every way. Great theme, great harmonies, great lyrics, great melody. I couldn't disagree more. We Built this City sounds like it was professionally crafted and polished by several highly experienced pop-meisters using an established formula. Anyone competent could have sung it and it may have been a hit. It is 180 degrees away from the edgy, passionate music they made up to 1975. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A. Einstein Posted July 23, 2012 Members Share Posted July 23, 2012 No it isn't.okay, there is some hard cheese, i.e. songs by Black Sabbath, and soft cheese, i.e. a Barbra Streisand camenbert love ballad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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