Members paul6string Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I just installed it on one of my strats with an original floyd rose. When I push it in to "E" position, it comes up flat. The tiny little set screw is supposed to take care of that, so I turn the set screw until it's correct. It's all good until I want to go back to "D". The set screw locked the unit in the "E" position, and needs to be backed off to let the mechanism slide to the "D" position. Now I'm going to be out of tune agaiun if I want to return to pitch. If I have to bring an allen wrench to gigs, it's going to be a 3mm to unlock the nut. {censored} this $38.00 piece of {censored}. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gmoulder Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 If your trem floats, it won't work. Make sure the fine tuning screw is adjusted all the way out. I have one and it works flawlessly once properly calibrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 24, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 If your trem floats, it won't work. Make sure the fine tuning screw is adjusted all the way out. I have one and it works flawlessly once properly calibrated. Trem is blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhorne Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 If your trem floats, it won't work. Make sure the fine tuning screw is adjusted all the way out. I have one and it works flawlessly once properly calibrated. This. I've had them on several guitars and they work fine (as long as you don't have a floating trem) if you set them up correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 24, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I don't know if scale length or string gague comes into play here, but the small set screw tightens the unit so I cant pull it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members maltomario Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 First off, make sure you are setting it right before writing it off as crap. Here's what u need to do. With the dtuna pulled away from bridge (out).. Tune low e string to d before locking the lock nut. Then check to make sure all strings are in tune d a d g b e. If they aren't, adjust now. Then push the dtuna in. Now is when u adjust setscrew on dtuna. Adjust until pitch is e. Voila. I have seen some plating issues where the chrome is too thick causing problems but i doubt that is the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 I did all that (as the instructions also explain clearly). The problem is that once i adjust the set screw to get the "e"perfect, it grips the stud and i can't pull it back to "d" unless i loosen the set screw a bit. That throws the "e" out sgain for the next time First off, make sure you are setting it right before writing it off as crap. Here's what u need to do. With the dtuna pulled away from bridge (out).. Tune low e string to d before locking the lock nut. Then check to make sure all strings are in tune d a d g b e. If they aren't, adjust now. Then push the dtuna in. Now is when u adjust setscrew on dtuna. Adjust until pitch is e. Voila. I have seen some plating issues where the chrome is too thick causing problems but i doubt that is the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Did you make sure the fine tuner screw for the E string on the Floyd is almost all the way unscrewed? Like barely touching the bolt that you loosen to remove the strings, if at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turtleheadblues Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 If all else fails contact Adam at Floyd Upgrades. He is the owner and is a great guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Did you make sure the fine tuner screw for the E string on the Floyd is almost all the way unscrewed? Like barely touching the bolt that you loosen to remove the strings, if at all....yes i had it set all the way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maltomario Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 I did all that (as the instructions also explain clearly). The problem is that once i adjust the set screw to get the "e"perfect, it grips the stud and i can't pull it back to "d" unless i loosen the set screw a bit. That throws the "e" out sgain for the next time Oh ok.. Then try this. Take the dtuna off.. Remove the saddle bolt, and inspect it for gouges. What i normally do for periodic maintenance is stick the bolt in a drill chuck and use steel wool or 1200 grit sandpaper if its really chewed up.. to smooth it out, then apply light oil and reassemble check to see if plating is too thick to allow the bolt to fully seat in through u-shaped channel in the dtuna. . If so you will need to file it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Are you pushing down (towards the body of the guitar) when you go to pull the d-tuna out? I know mine always felt like it was binding if I didn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 The thing about the D Tuna on the purple Charvel I sold recently was that the little screw inside it wouldn't stay calibrated, it needed some thread tape or something... or I was doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Oh ok.. Then try this. Take the dtuna off.. Remove the saddle bolt, and inspect it for gouges. What i normally do for periodic maintenance is stick the bolt in a drill chuck and use steel wool or 1200 grit sandpaper if its really chewed up.. to smooth it out, then apply light oil and reassemble check to see if plating is too thick to allow the bolt to fully seat in through u-shaped channel in the dtuna. . If so you will need to file it down. I will check that out when I get home later. I'm not thrilled about the lack of range of motion in the floyd fine tuner after installation though. I like to gig with fairly new strings, and they tend to drift a few cents flat after taking a beating. This may be a problem with the D Tuna if I have to unlock the nut and take up slack in the middle of a set between songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 How far out of tune are you talking here? One or two cents or horribly out of tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Design flaw I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted November 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 How far out of tune are you talking here? One or two cents or horribly out of tune? About 1/4 step. Way too much to live with. I am going to do what maltomario suggested and check to see if the locking stud seats all the way forward before I sell it though. I will let you all know how I made out tomorrow. Not enough time today to mess with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Computerman5150 Posted December 3, 2015 Members Share Posted December 3, 2015 I may have a solution for you. I had this same problem with mine. I figured out you can only go up to a .046 gage string on the low E. Anthing larger than that & you have to adjust the set screw in so far to get it to E from D. As the string gets bigger it takes more tension to tune it up to a given pitch. I went to a .046 gage string on my guitar & it totally fixed the problem. I use Ernie ball heavy bottoms. The E A & D strings are from a set of 10's & the G B & E strings are from a set of 9's. Give it a try. Worked for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted December 3, 2015 Members Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hi and welcome to the Forum but given that this thread is four years old, I doubt the OP still cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted December 4, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2015 Dude could be still sittn at his computer waitin for wisdom:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shindog Posted April 1, 2020 Members Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 11/24/2011 at 6:37 PM, paul6string said: I did all that (as the instructions also explain clearly). The problem is that once i adjust the set screw to get the "e"perfect, it grips the stud and i can't pull it back to "d" unless i loosen the set screw a bit. That throws the "e" out sgain for the next time First off, make sure you are setting it right before writing it off as crap. Here's what u need to do. With the dtuna pulled away from bridge (out).. Tune low e string to d before locking the lock nut. Then check to make sure all strings are in tune d a d g b e. If they aren't, adjust now. Then push the dtuna in. Now is when u adjust setscrew on dtuna. Adjust until pitch is e. Voila. I have seen some plating issues where the chrome is too thick causing problems but i doubt that is the case here. Paul... The problem is when you push it in and tune to. E and can’t pull out , The The bottom of the swiveling saddle is touching the base plate.. you tighten the setscrew to tune E on the Dtuna and it pushes the swiveling saddle down to the base plate and is jamming tightly is why you can’t pull the mechanism out... THE FIX IS remove the DTuna out of the saddle. Then remove your saddle from the tremolo system. Get a Dremel tool with a grind stone and grind away on the swiveling underside of the saddle where it touches down on the base plate.. I guarantee your problem is solved... not every genuine Floyd or licensed Floyd or non-licensed Floyd is designed for the DTUNA!!! The problem is the sixth string swiveling side of the saddle “under saddle“ it’s too low to the base plate and it does not let you have the travel of a whole step “2 Frets of tuning“... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob brownircu Posted December 29, 2020 Members Share Posted December 29, 2020 Nobody believed this guy even though he is TOTALLY RIGHT!! D tuna is fatally flawed, the set screw jams into lock screw-under tension and it SCRATCHES lock screw. Lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fro73 Posted March 28, 2022 Members Share Posted March 28, 2022 Better late than never. I just ran into this problem. I agree the D tuna does have a set screw issue. That said I was able to get it working fairly well. Here's what worked for me: Loosen locking nut Tune the string to D Tighten the locking nut Engage the D-tun Use set screw to fine tune the E. Relocking the nut is the only way I could get it to tune correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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