Members sekler Posted May 24, 2003 Members Share Posted May 24, 2003 I'm changing my heads for the first time and I have that Prof.Sound Tuning bible printed to help me out.. I went to buy the heads, and my 8'' , the guy gave me a Remo Weatherking emperor and a Remo Wheatherking ambassador. Though he told me that one was 2 plies (batter) and the other single ply(resonant), they didn't came in a box, so i'm at home and I can't tell the hell which one is 2 plies and which one is single ply...they seem the same to me.. is there any way I can figure it out ? that kinda pisses me off ... thanks a lot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sekler Posted May 24, 2003 Author Members Share Posted May 24, 2003 BTW, I noticed that on one of the 2 heads, there is an oily reflection that seems to be in the head itself...so I'm assuming that this is the glue or whatever that sticks the 2 plies together right ? thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members societystease Posted May 24, 2003 Members Share Posted May 24, 2003 The emperor is 2 plies, the ambassador is 1 ply. As for the oily reflection...I was under the impression that the emperor has two free floating plies, but yes, it is possible that there is glue between the plies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dash OH drummer Posted May 24, 2003 Members Share Posted May 24, 2003 I really don't know much about Remo's...Evans are my heads of choice however try doing this (sorry if this sounds stupid) 1) try holding the heads up to a light...2 plys will be harder for light to shine through right? 2) Put them both on your drum, "seat the head" ( you should know this term from Prof. sounds site) and tighten the heads to a little over finger tight...lightly tap each head in the middle, and then on the outskirts of the center around the drum....you should be able to tell which is the batter and which is the resonant right away from either the feel of it and/or the sound of it when it's hit *I say seat the head because if your going to do it prof. sound's way when you actually get to tuning the whole thing then you'll just have to seat the head anway* Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sekler Posted May 24, 2003 Author Members Share Posted May 24, 2003 Hey guys, I gotta tell you.. tuning drums is the worst thing I ever done in my music hobby.... hell..it took me around 2 hours to work on my smaller tom...and even now, I'm not even sure it sounds ok... I'll just experiment when everything will be set...but that frutrates me so much to not have that great sound from a great tuned drum.. It's my first try so it can't be perfect...I have a good ear, i'm a guitarist at the roots, but in term of drums it's hard for me to find for example the lowest clear note a drum can sound..i'm always wondering if it's the lowest...is it clear, and everything..that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agogobill Posted May 25, 2003 Members Share Posted May 25, 2003 Look on the head ... it'll say "Emperor" or "Ambassador". If you're trying to get the drum to sound like recordings that you hear, you won't get it ... that sound has been electronically processed. If you're trying to get the drum to sound like someone else's kit that you heard from out front, you won't get it. The thing is that drums sound different from sitting behind the kit as opposed to hearing them from out front. When you do get that drum sounding good, take it into another room and notice how the sound has changed - maybe better, maybe worse. Best thing is to get it sounding decent, and be happy with it. " ... please keep in mind that different drummers can play the same kit and sound completely different. This comes from the way the drummer plays, whether he hits the drum hard or softly, how much and at what angle he puts the bead of the stick on the head, whether he "buries" the beater or rebounds it off the head, and many other factors." -- Joe Morello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dash OH drummer Posted May 26, 2003 Members Share Posted May 26, 2003 Don't get discouraged about tuning. Just like everything drum-related, it takes practice. I remember when I was first starting out it took me about 3 hours to tune my 5 piece. Now it takes about 45 mins (taking my time). The more you tune the more you'll learn about heads, your drums, and what sounds you can get out of them. Stick with it. You never know, the occasional drum tuning might even become fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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