Members drumhead1234 Posted January 9, 2004 Members Share Posted January 9, 2004 Does anyone have any information about this new line of cymbals? Has anyone heard them, or does anyone plan on checking them out? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted January 9, 2004 Members Share Posted January 9, 2004 I heard he switched to Sabian recently, I was wondering how long it would take before they had a 'signature' line in his name. Gotta love the marketing department at Sabian...right on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted January 9, 2004 Members Share Posted January 9, 2004 here's the email i got from sabian on it (i'm on their mailing list) they sound like they may just be something worth demo-ing .. here's the word from sabian: SABIAN INTRODUCES SIGNATURE NEIL PEART PARAGON CYMBALS. SUBTLE LOOKS, POWERFUL SOUNDS FOR THE DRUMMER WITH RUSH. SABIAN is pleased to announce the addition of Neil Peart to its family drummers. In association with this, SABIAN is very proud to introduce Paragon, a new range of signature cymbals created in collaboration with Neil Peart, drummer with legendary rockers Rush. Handcrafted from pure SABIAN B20 bronze, Paragon offers subtle looks and powerful sounds. Created using automatic AA-style hammering and an innovative mix of sound-defining features from three SABIAN series, AA, AAX, and Hand Hammered, Paragon defines a new, closer relationship between power and musicality in cymbals that are dynamically responsive, highly durable, and effective in a wide range of applications. The Natural Finish look of these cymbals is enhanced with logo stamping in a subtle 'Rich Gold' ink that is unique to cymbalmaking. Said Peart, who made his way to the SABIAN 'Vault' from his home in Canada via an 11-hour motorcycle journey: "The first thing I noticed at Sabian was the people - how nice they were - and the second thing was how much of the cymbal-making process was still done by hand; the craftsmen at the lathes cutting the grooves into one cymbal at a time, Charlie Brown with his shy smile and leather apron sitting behind a wooden block with a hammer, and cymbal master Mark Love sonically matching sets of cymbals in the famous Sabian "Vault." Commented Love: "Neil was very definite about what he was seeking. He wanted subtle looking cymbals with explosive sounds that would be focused, cutting, and musical." Added Peart: We started with the all-important ride cymbal. At first Mark had its bow lathed, and left the bell raw. Interesting, but a bit "clangy," so he had Charlie Brown give it the hand-hammering treatment. Better, but still lacking in "nuance." Next we tried a combination of lathing and hand hammering on the bell, and presto! That was what I wanted, a sharp, musical sound with a range of complex overtones. "I'm not sure if Mark naturally shared my taste in cymbal sounds, or just intuitively responded to what he saw I liked, but he was soon bringing me a selection of crash cymbals and hi-hats that really "worked" for me and the way I played. "A few weeks later, he sent me some prototype crash cymbals with AAX "pinpoint" lathing on the top, and the classic Turkish-style AA lathing on the bottom, combined with the hand-hammered bell. The narrower grooves on top made for a fast, lively response, while the traditional wider (AA-style) ones on the bottom gave a full, rich tone. This combination proved to be exactly what I had been looking for in a crash cymbal: a unity of rapid attack and swell around a solid, musical sound with a smooth decay." At over 8lbs in weight, the ride (22") is an extra-heavy model, with strong, clear-cutting stick definition. The hi-hats (13", 14") are medium weight, for fast, crisp responses and clean sticking. The crashes (16", 18", 20") are of medium weight, with large bells boosting their volume and power for fast, explosive responses. The splashes (8", 10") are very fast, sharp and biting. And there are two very different Chinese models. The 19" Chinese has a small bell, a high bow, and an extremely wide-lipped edge that is HHX-hammered, for a more traditional oriental look and sound. The heavier 20" Chinese is a totally different model, with a drier, more direct response. As for the Paragon name: "I thought," explained Peart, "of that word in the sense of the expressions "a paragon of excellence," or "a paragon of virtue.a model of perfection or excellence." And with all credit to Mark and the guys at Sabian, and due deference to matters of taste, I think it's what we achieved. Although his move to SABIAN is new, Peart was familiar with the quality of work emanating from the New Brunswick-based facility. "Back in 1974, when I first joined Rush, I bought a 22" ride cymbal that was made in that (Meductic) factory, and I'm still using it today, almost thirty years later. Paragon cymbals are quality protected by SABIAN's One-Year Warranty. In addition to individual models, Paragon is also available in a 'Sonically Matched' Performance Set (14" Hats, 16" Crash, 20" Ride), an Effects Pack (10" Splash, 18" Chinese), and a Flight Case containing the complete Neil Peart set-up consisting of 12 Paragon models sounds pretty cool to me, sam(otacon28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rumblebelly Posted January 9, 2004 Members Share Posted January 9, 2004 Wow, sounds like the perfect cymbal to me. Although I love Sabian cymbals, sometimes I think that the hand hammered cymbals sound a little too clangy and the AA and AAX a little too bland. A merger of the 3 sounds perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted January 9, 2004 Members Share Posted January 9, 2004 yeah that's what i was thinking too , i actually read through the whole thing like 3 times in a row repeatedly wiping the drool of my keyboard ..(LOL) it's sounds like a great cross between a few of their top end models that would give a great balance.. don't get me wrong i love my aax's (which are mostly the stage /or studio models) but man don't these bastards sound awful tempting ?? sam(otacon28) Originally posted by rumblebelly Wow, sounds like the perfect cymbal to me. Although I love Sabian cymbals, sometimes I think that the hand hammered cymbals sound a little too clangy and the AA and AAX a little too bland. A merger of the 3 sounds perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xerosleep Posted January 10, 2004 Members Share Posted January 10, 2004 Those do sound like they would be awesome! They look awesome that's for sure! Here's a great pic of them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted January 10, 2004 Members Share Posted January 10, 2004 nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro' FF Posted January 10, 2004 Members Share Posted January 10, 2004 I love Neil Peart... what a gentleman. Those cymbals sound like they would be just fantastic... too bad the cash flow is down these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humble_pie Posted January 11, 2004 Members Share Posted January 11, 2004 Aside from his stick series, has he authorized anything with his name on it before this? I don't recall any of the drum manufacturers being authorized to put out "Peart Series" products. Tama's Art Star series doesn't count since they didn't carry his name on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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