Members Halide Posted January 21, 2005 Members Share Posted January 21, 2005 Im a noob...I just want to get a stepping stone on what instruments should i aquire first to play Eurodance/Trance...I do not know how to play them yet though but i jus wan an idea on what i really need....thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6ftabovsealevel Posted January 22, 2005 Members Share Posted January 22, 2005 Not exactly sure what you mean. Do you want to produce the music, or do you want to do the dj thing? Please clarify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Halide Posted January 22, 2005 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2005 I want to compose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted January 23, 2005 Members Share Posted January 23, 2005 Get a Kazoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Halide Posted January 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2005 What is a Kazoo? I need more specific answers please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted January 23, 2005 Members Share Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by Halide What is a Kazoo? I need more specific answers please It's an instrument that you blow into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6ftabovsealevel Posted January 24, 2005 Members Share Posted January 24, 2005 Originally posted by Halide What is a Kazoo? I need more specific answers please Don't waste your time listening to that guy... I'm not really too experienced in what you're asking about, but I can certainly give you better advice than what you've gotten so far. There are a couple different roads you can travel down when you're starting off composing music like the kinds you're interested in. Up until a few years ago, if you wanted to make this stuff it meant buying loads of expensive pieces of individual hardware to accomplish the various tasks involved in music production. Drum machines, synthesizers, sequencers, compressors, eq's, effects units, and tons of other things were basically stand alone pieces of equipment that were networked together by the user and used in conjunction to create the music. This is road A. Road B is sitting right in front of you. Recent growth in PC music production capabilities has been nothing short of staggering, and everything that all that gear listed above accomplished can now basically be done on your computer with fairly limited extra hardware. Software is available in very comprehensive packages that will allow you to compose a piece of music from start to finish all in one place. Take a look at somethig like Propellerhead's Reason for an idea of what these programs are all about. Some programs are preferred over others for certain tasks, but as my experience with them is pretty limited I can't really get into specifics. Basically this has leveled the playing field between the composer using a laptop in his living room and the composer sitting behind a giant mixing board in his big expensive studio. Most people that start out nowadays go the PC route as it's cheaper, easier to find the equipment you want, takes up a lot less space, and produces basically the same product. Of course there are people out there who still swear by the old methods, preferring the sound of the analog gear and the traditional knob twisting, physically intuitive interface. I think most of those people already know who they are, but who knows... This is over simplified a little bit of course. There is a middle ground between the two where PC's can be used in conjunction with outboard equipment, but if you're looking for a starting point you'll probably want to focus on one of the two directions. And just for argument's sake, you hum into a kazoo, not just blow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mul Posted January 28, 2005 Members Share Posted January 28, 2005 I started off mucking around with really basic programs like ejay. I made some fairly decent stuff surprisingly, not so surprisingly, my abilities and ambitions outgrew the capabilities of ejay. So for a while a tried Magix Music maker 7. This was not a bad stepping stone, it enabled me to see more clearly what I was actually doing, instead of just trial and error like on ejay. Before long I outgrew Music Maker, so I picked up a demo of Cubase SX. This was my epiphany. Unfortunately the demo was limited to no exports and no saves, but I could see its huge potential. So I got myself a copy, wonderful. So with all this new potential I got loads of VSTis (Virtual Instruments), started playing around with the sounds and composing in midi. All great fun. The last year or so I've invested heavily in hardware synthesizers, just to beef up my sound and to get a bit more hands on. The sounds aren't any better than the best VSTis, but they respond much better. It is far more fun twisting the knobs than moving the mouse, believe me. Also it means I can control all my VSTis from the hardware unit. So right now for me, the sequencing engine is Cubase SX on the PC, I run several VSTis when needed, sample all my beats, and use the hardware stuff for fun and for my 'sound'. Best of luck, it's a long, expensive path, but if you take it easy you won't go far wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJAW Posted April 16, 2005 Members Share Posted April 16, 2005 mul, have you ever played with Reason? I'm interested in hearing some of the major differences between that and cubase. Where did you pick up the demo of cubase? Was it for mac or windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeebus Posted April 30, 2005 Members Share Posted April 30, 2005 Originally posted by Halide Im a noob...I just want to get a stepping stone on what instruments should i aquire first to play Eurodance/Trance...I do not know how to play them yet though but i jus wan an idea on what i really need....thanks Start off by taking some piano lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacGrooves Posted May 6, 2005 Members Share Posted May 6, 2005 Reason is all anyone needs. I have been using it for just over a year now. It rocks. I think it is one the most computer friendly music programs out there, meaning its no RAM hog. You can make any music you want with it too. My pops uses the Redrum to make rock drum beats, and lays bass lines with the NNXT. BUT then again, I am biased I'll be honest. I love Reason (still need to pick up 3.0 upgrade) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mul Posted July 1, 2005 Members Share Posted July 1, 2005 Originally posted by DJAW mul, have you ever played with Reason?I'm interested in hearing some of the major differences between that and cubase.Where did you pick up the demo of cubase? Was it for mac or windows? Hi DJAW, sorry it took so long to reply, i don't tend to look at this forum too much, spend most time on KSS. Reason was recommended to me as the best when I was first starting out, but I've never tried it. I like Cubase, it does everything I want at the moment, and I know it pretty much inside out. Plus it's an absolute breeze to sync all my hardware equipment to it. The demo I got was actually off the Steinberg website, as far as i can remember it was fully functional except no saves and no export. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members engine505 Posted July 1, 2005 Members Share Posted July 1, 2005 Start looking around here.. www.futureproducers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MersyOne Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by DJAW mul, have you ever played with Reason?I'm interested in hearing some of the major differences between that and cubase.Where did you pick up the demo of cubase? Was it for mac or windows? REASON I'd have to agree would be an excellent program to start with. Alot of these TRANCE/EURODANCE producers aren't really playing instruments though. They're using SYNTHESIZERS AND PLUG-INS off of computer audio programs. To try and play the piano you'd have to be like SPEEDY GONZALES or something unless you got some recording tricks up your sleeve. BT, if you've ever heard of him, uses nothing but plug-ins, plug-ins, and more plug-ins to make his AWESOME trance sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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