Members Dave Martin Posted September 5, 2006 Members Share Posted September 5, 2006 Originally posted by Scafeets Funny...I'm a NYC guy living in the Carolinas, and here I am defending Nashville, a place that's famous for the only music genre I can't stand, and with a well-earned reputation for horrible restaurants and hideous architecture; but hey, give 'em a break. I can't help the food - these sumbitches around here think that 'Carolina style' barbecue is the right approach... There's no decent brisket in the whole county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HOOMER Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 I think the basic concensus is the same....you dont go to the city to find an audience, you build an audience and have the city ask you to come. After all, the sharks circle where the chum is right? Whether is pertinant to the thread or not I have found this interesting phenom... There are far better"players" in our area than us, but the clubs book us ahead of them. We create a fun reason for people to come out to, not stun them with our razzle dazzle ability to be "better" than anyone else. If you build it, they(and the following) will come. How u do that is regionally specific, what works here may not work in Tombstone for example. The trick is to find what works in Tombstone if U happen to be in Tombstone. Then the people in Pheonix want to know why the Tombstone guys are havin" so much fun, etc. And then you are on your way.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members donmak Posted September 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2006 Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Looks like that link to the Nashville vs NYC article doesn't work anymore ... Here is one that works: http://www.bloggingmuses.com/misc/nashville_vs_nyc.htm -donmak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by Gregg Hall Originally posted by MatanP I think that what makes the different between the big shots, and the mediocre ones- The will to put all your eggs in one basket, and gamble all you got for that one small chance to make it big. I agree. I say the more originial you are the better chance you have. I'm going to agree with you all on that too. I came to the same thought regarding music awhile ago. I really don't care what all the kids think is cool or a 'must have'. Kids least of all. I have my own vision. The people I know who really made it in life did so by living their vision of what their lives were supposed to be. It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible, but to the extent I have control, I decided to do things my own way, completely. I figure, if you're going to lose, you might as well go down swinging. And in the end, you're going to die, so you might as well have no regrets. Of course, if you go your own way and fail, you might have regrets, but how much worse is it if you follow the pack and fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marcus Dahl Posted September 30, 2006 Members Share Posted September 30, 2006 Anybody that knows mein Tennessee knows how I hate Nashville, but it's on of the cleanest cities in the state. Chattanooga being the next. Knoxville and Memphis are just nasty, but that doesn't mean you have to live in Nashville. Leapers Fork is right outside of Franklin and is an artist comunity, and when I say that I'm not just meaning musician and songwriter types either. I myself live 80 miles away for my own piece of mind and just do bizness down there. There ar some pretty places in TN and I really wouldn't want to leave. Anyway for the songwriter I think Nashville has got to be one of the best places to be. The songwriters around there tend to be accepting and take in new guys all the time. Sogwriter rounds are prevelent all over town, but the Music Row area has the most and best. The Comadore Lounge and Bobby's Idle Hour are the 2 best places to meet people ect... As for the singer performer thing you're better off outside of Nashville even though you can do rounds ect.., if you want to make money performing it ain't in Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members griffi94 Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by buzzcut I agree but you eventually have to have some form of contact with Nashville if you want to break into the songwriting business there, even if you don't live there. . your odds of making a real contact in person are almost 0most legit publishers don't take unsolicited material, some dobut that's about the same as sending a brown package with a demo in it to sonyyour money would be better spent..imo on joining some songwriters groups taxi maybe, make quality demos, and get real representation, that will cost you some money but it's probly cheaper than moving to nashville, and it has the added plus of giving you a chance to work up to a bigger pond a little bit at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kotch Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by MatanP I think that what makes the different between the big shots, and the mediocre ones- The will to put all your eggs in one basket, and gamble all you got for that one small chance to make it big. Okay. I really have no business posting anything in the music biz forum, but even so, this just strikes me as wrong. You're not putting all your eggs in one basket, you're cracking them open one by one, on the off chance you'll find a yolk made from real gold. If you want to be a big success in a business where there's next to zero chance of achieving that, you won't do yourself any favours chasing rainbows. You have to plan on being a small success instead. You have to carve out your own little niche, and be at peace with the fact that you have a 99% chance of never progressing beyond that. Because the only way to succeed big-time in an industry where the odds are so stacked against you is to put yourself in the way of a hell of a lot of opportunities. And that means being there, year after year, demonstrating your modest success in your modest little niche, instead of wasting yourself on the "one big chance" that turned out to be no chance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Battletits Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 I "made it" I guess you would say. Major label, endorsed by whomever(I turned a lot down), free clothes, hanging out with actresses...all that stuff. Yes, it is {censored}ing fun, but it is a FAST ride if you are a player. I always liked production and A&R better then just playing in a band. When you are in KS, and its 11 AM, and you go on at 11PM, you start going mad. A tour bus is only so nice. The truth is that music is a TOUGH business. We all know this of course. You have to capitalize on opportunity. If you get a deal, you will be dropped in 2 years..just accept it and prepare. Doing this will enable you to network very aggressively while you are in the business and continue working in music once you are done playing. I would not move anywhere with making it in music as my dream. I would suggest that you dominate where you are now. That is what my goal always was. If I ended up in Spokane WA, I was going to establish myself as a go to talent within the calender year by playing and networking. The days of moving to LA to make it are over, you dont need to do it. Just kick ass in your market, because if you can't do it in your market, you sure as hell won't do it in NYC or Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scafeets Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by Battletits The days of moving to LA to make it are over, you dont need to do it. Just kick ass in your market, because if you can't do it in your market, you sure as hell won't do it in NYC or Nashville. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FingerBliss Posted October 11, 2006 Members Share Posted October 11, 2006 I think I may be one of the only people on list list to have actually lived in both Nashville and NYC and also LA. I lived in Nashville for 5 years. was born and raised in NY and now I live in LA. I am of the opinion that you SHOULD move to where the industry is....I tour and meet bands all over the country who never even get looked at once simply because setting up a showcase outside of those three towns is impossible. Heres the deal: Nashville: Don't move there if you're not country....horrible rock scene (that is slowly coming back) NYC: best city in the world, freezing cold for 8 months out of the year....Semi good industry there, but not worth the depression of the winter.... LA: Unbeliveable. This town is beauitful, and gives you the chance to meet the people you NEED to meet to make it in music. If you can stand out in this town you will get a deal. MOVE HERE, MAKE CONNECTIONS- Thats how you do it today- You may fail, but I feel you give yourself the best shot but putting yourself where the action is, not trying to be a big fish in a pond that no one knows where to find...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted October 12, 2006 Moderators Share Posted October 12, 2006 Originally posted by FingerBliss LA: Unbeliveable. This town is beauitful, and gives you the chance to meet the people you NEED to meet to make it in music. If you can stand out in this town you will get a deal. MOVE HERE, MAKE CONNECTIONS- Thats how you do it today- You may fail, but I feel you give yourself the best shot but putting yourself where the action is, not trying to be a big fish in a pond that no one knows where to find...... Well, you have me on Nashville, I visited there once a long time ago....but I wasn't ready to go 'country' enough. But I grew up and started out in NYC...and I have been in L.A. for too long... oh, no you didn't tell him to move to LA.... I agree, the scene here is 'it', but surviving here is brutal. Bring lots of money, and your own car. The only thing here that is cheaper than the rest of the country is food. Gas, housing etc.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Battletits Posted October 12, 2006 Members Share Posted October 12, 2006 Originally posted by FingerBliss setting up a showcase outside of those three towns is impossible. Heres the deal: That is simply not true. I have been to showcases all over the country including the middle of mid america. A&Rs will fly to a barn in the middle of KY to watch a band play if they are digging it. But if you are seeing bands that are amazing that haven't gotten looks, feel free to PM me them. I'll check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marcus Dahl Posted October 19, 2006 Members Share Posted October 19, 2006 I agree with working in your own back yard, but sooner or latter you've got to leave the pond and swim in the lake. I'm lucky to have grown up around Nashville to see how things work, but I'm still a small fish in Lake Erie around here. Were I actually live it's a small pond with big fish that don't know how the scene works around Nashville, but these guys cut each others throats to play Billy Bob's Suds and Duds. Moving close to a city witha music scene is a good idea, but I wouldn't say Nashville, LA, NYC are the best bets to get your feet wet. It depends on what part of the market you're in. Right now I'm in the bar scene. Nashville and the surounding area is not really the best place for that, but I get by cause I know the scene. If I live in Maryland, I'd be doing great. I will say if you're Rock, Nashville is not the place. We had a pretty decent scen in the late 80's early 90's. It died quickly. Grunge killed it here. I'd like to see it grow again. I'd like to see our Blues scene grow to son Music City can actually live up to it's name. Big name country acts just use Nashville as a basis of operation and to be seen, not to make money. The go to NOrth Dakota, Washington, places like that to make a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cybersecretary Posted October 24, 2006 Members Share Posted October 24, 2006 interesting thread...yes Nash has a strange vibe... but i hear the outskirts are nice.all cities are filthy..a boy, Don, from North Carolina...... are you young and southern? are you country? NYC is not a Country city. here is a new song of mine.... First I was a small fish in a big pond.then aBig fish small pond...did that..looked for more moved to the big pondmoved to the big pond... did ok.got tiredthe jungle went to another small pond small pond big fish.. doing that now... people do not know what to think of me here in the sticks...water is getting scarse.. keep swimmin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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