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Originally posted by Bachfan420

Are there any rudimental snare drummers here?

 

 

I think it is a trick question--

 

How many rudiments does it take to make you a rudimental drummer?

 

Or is it how many snares does it take to make you a snare drummer?

 

Or how many drummers does it take to snare a rudiment?

 

Or all of the above?

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I'm serious. What does he mean? Not sure if I am a rudimental snare drummer. I can play all my rudiments, I incorporate them into my set drumming...so am I one or am I not one?

 

Prolly a question along the lines of who can read music?

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What I meant was, is there any one in this forum who doesn't just play drum set and plays rudimental snare drum? Like in a drum corp, or marching band. 'Cause if not, you can stomp me all you want for asking a simple question.

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I can play rudiments on a snare drum and have done so on a marching snare and quads in drum corp and a concert snare and tympani in an orchestra. I also incorporate rudiments into playing a drum kit in a hard rock/heavy metal band. So I don't know...am I a rudimental drummer? I mean, my days of drum corp and symphony are behind me, but I'd like to think I would still be up to the task if it arose. I'm just not real sure I'd really want to do it. Mind me asking why you want to know? Do you not play drum set. I'm just curious.

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Originally posted by Bachfan420

What I meant was, is there any one in this forum who doesn't just play drum set and plays rudimental snare drum? Like in a drum corp, or marching band. 'Cause if not, you can stomp me all you want for asking a simple question.

 

 

Don't get snotty or the next time you turn around you'll find a big sweaty, greasy, hairy guy with a fetish for leather wanting to ask you out on a date. And by "date", I don't mean a dinner and a movie type of date either.

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Originally posted by ArtVandelay



How about ice skating?


or bowling?

 

 

No. I was thinking (if he's cute), that I'd take him out to Lookout Point and we'd talk while the sun sets over the city. Ya know, get to know you type of stuff. After that, maybe some ice cream. I know a great place on Broadway that puts sparkles on free of charge. Around 8 we could go to the ballet just down the street. There's a beautiful show down there called Love Soft As Leather that features a fiend of mine, Filthy Pete, dancing at his first show.

 

Ice skating isn't a bad idea but I broke my ankle recently riding my Hawg on a high speed mountain run during a rain storm. It still hurts really bad, but not as bad as the 8 inch circle of raw flesh on my shoulder that used to be covered with oily skin and matted back hair. Gear lube seems to keep it from cracking too much. It also keeps the crows from pecking at it.

 

I can't bowl because I'm pretty much banned from every bowling place in the county. Not sure why but I think it involves something about a bowling pin and a donkey. I should really lay off the booze for a while.

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Back when I played in a marching band (Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, Texas. The band was the only good think about the school.) I wasn't good enough to play snare or quads, just cause my rudiments sucked, so I started on cymbals and worked my way up to bass drum captain in maybe a year. It pissed me off, too, because even as a cymbal monkey I knew more theory than anyone in the band and was the only one whom given another instrument (cause you obviously can't con cymbals) could take it and actually create something, or write a song, when all the other guys there were just playing the {censored} music on the peices of paper in front of them. Ah, my marching band days...

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Originally posted by green_monster

Back when I played in a marching band (Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, Texas. The band was the only good
think
about the school.)

 

Apparently the english/spelling classes were lacking.

 

j/k!

 

:p

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Originally posted by Bachfan420

What I meant was, is there any one in this forum who doesn't just play drum set and plays rudimental snare drum? Like in a drum corp, or marching band. 'Cause if not, you can stomp me all you want for asking a simple question.

 

 

Ok. Serious answer. Many years ago, I played snare in school marching and concert bands. There were ususally at least 6 drummers. Sometimes more in the band. At that time, all "legit" drummers were expected to be able to play snare, and that meant play the traditional (US) rudiments. Instructional books taught rudiments and snare drum parts were written accordingly. To be accepted in a college program as a percussionist, you had to demonstrate facility with the rudiments. So to my way of thinking saying "rudimental snare drummer" is redundant. At my high school, there were a few of us that played drumset too, and one kid that played only drumset, and was not member of the band. So my impression is that a lot of drummers have some experience as a "legit" percussionist. Perhaps nobody uses "legit" that way any more. I am showing my age here. By the way, we had several women drummers. I don't see as many women drummers around now for some reason.

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Apparently we got started off on the wrong foot. I was just curious if anyone had played snare drum in a marching band or drum corps because unfortunately that's the only style of percussion I can play and would be able to discuss in a forum setting. I would like to play drum set but have yet to invest the time in it. And rudiments are the only thing that one can play on a snare drum or at least it's the most common aspect of snare drumming. I apologize for sounding "snotty".

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I can't speak for everyone, but I thought we were just having some fun at your expense.

 

I think most of us here are currently drumset players. However, I'm sure there are a few who have been in marching bands/drum corps and can discuss rudimental drumming in a more serious manner. Try posting with more specific questions and I'm sure you can get some productive discussion out of it. I have noticed that general questions like the one you asked just get a swarm of sarcastic and/or just plain goofy answers. I, of course, would never do that. Seriously. No. Seriously. ;)

 

Anyhow, I took lessons for many years and spent a lot of time on rudiments, but I'm not what you'd call a rudimental drummer. I incorporate them into my grooves and fills like crazy, but only because they're so ingrained that it just happens that way - I don't put much thought into it though, I do realize that I tend to use a lot of flams, double strokes, and paradiddles. I guess I'd classify myself as a pocket/groove drummer who makes extensive use of rudiments.

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Originally posted by Bachfan420

Apparently we got started off on the wrong foot. I was just curious if anyone had played snare drum in a marching band or drum corps because unfortunately that's the only style of percussion I can play and would be able to discuss in a forum setting. I would like to play drum set but have yet to invest the time in it. And rudiments are the only thing that one can play on a snare drum or at least it's the most common aspect of snare drumming. I apologize for sounding "snotty".

Don't sweat it. Sometimes you gotta be pretty thick skinned around here I've discovered. All in good fun.:) If you want to talk about things like snare drum technique and things like that I'm sure there are people here that could join in.:cool:

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Originally posted by Bachfan420

I apologize for sounding "snotty".

 

 

 

Somebody get a 1000cc syringe and shoot this dude up with some humor.

 

I'm a kit player but I have tons of respect for snare drummers. I'm starting to put paradiddles, doublestrokes, and other simple rudiments into my playing. I'd like to be able to put double paradiddles and paradiddle diddles during 6/8 time but I forget to implement them in a productive session sometimes. Right now I'm really digging accents around the kit, especially on the "e's" and "a's" of fills. It makes the fill sound way complicated even with just a normal single stroke roll. I need to practice flams and drags more, I'm pretty sloppy with those.

 

In Miles Davis' Mojk, Al Foster sneaks in a cool paradiddle between the kick and snare during the opening beat.

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