Members calmepeter Posted April 30, 2005 Members Share Posted April 30, 2005 i was wondering what would be a good hardware/cymbal set up for a beginner. i'm into blues/jazz type stuff and eventually will be getting into metal drumming. what would be a decent set of high hats to get a versitale sound, something i could use for most different styles of music. my budget would probably be $400 for the the cymbals and hardware total. is that a realistic budget for what i'm looking to do? i was thinking of going sabian, with maybe pearl hardware. what do you guys think? also what would be a really sweet ride? really nice expensive one that you guys would recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted April 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted April 30, 2005 For those on a budget, I'm a big advocate of "cheap drums/ fancy cymbals." You can do SO MUCH to improve the sound of a entry-level kit, and there's a lot of good inexpensive kits out there. But there's nothing you can do about the sound of a crap cymbal. And even the crap one's arent that cheap... For $400? Any brand of decent cheap hardware will do... if you're not going on a world tour or if you're not going to have wild buffalo stampeding on stage I have no idea what the point s of the super heavy-duty hardware that everyone likes there days. With what's left, go for used Zildijan, Sabian, or Paiste. Get, say, some hi hats, a ride, and a crash. The right ride will depend on the kind of sound you want. Go hit some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted April 30, 2005 Members Share Posted April 30, 2005 I have found Sabian cymbals and Pearl hardware to be good values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members calmepeter Posted April 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2005 thanks for the input. what modle cymbal though, i'm new to drums and i don't know anything about cymbals. which sabian models are there, and what is their difference in sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted April 30, 2005 Members Share Posted April 30, 2005 You really have to listen to them live, because words can't really do them justice. Sabian AA's are similar to Zildjian A's which is the classic bright cymbal sound. Sabian HH are similar to Zildjian K's which is the classic dark cymbal sound. Generally for jazz or blues you want a cymbal that has a nice wash to it so a medium ride is often chosen. For louder music, you generally want dryer cymbals with little wash build up so heavier rides are popular. You want to pick one that sounds good played anywhere from the edge to the bell with good variation in tone as you move up and down. As long as you stay away from "rock" weight cymbals, you should have a cymbal that can cover a lot of styles. In the Zildjian line, new beats are the standard high hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KaoruKaido Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 Originally posted by calmepeter thanks for the input.what modle cymbal though, i'm new to drums and i don't know anything about cymbals. which sabian models are there, and what is their difference in sound? I recommend Sabian AAX line. It's a little darker than AAs and a little brighter than HHs. Great all rounder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bodinski Posted May 1, 2005 Members Share Posted May 1, 2005 I second the AAX recommendation. Go try Sabian.com's interactive cymbal selector. I'm kinda partial to the AAX Dark crashes. The AA Extra-Thins are nice, too. My ride is a 21" AAX Stage. While it doesn't offer a great deal of tonal variety, it sounds nice, has a fairly controllable wash & a bell that cuts like a mofo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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