Members ocean vs thesand Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 alright, so I have late 90's tama rockstars and they just don't sound nice or loud enough to me. now I don't have the budget to buy new drums so I was wondering if any of you guys have had experience using these drums or had any ideas about how to make these things louder and nicer sounding. I know that tuning them up correctly makes a big difference but what about specific heads (batter & bottom...I love remo)? any other ideas? these drums have been in and out of different climates and amounts of humidity. right now they are in a large warehouse practice space with concrete floors and walls, limited rugs, and an old {censored}ty humidifier (does okay I guess). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 When was the last time you changed the heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ignited Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Emperors on tops. Ambassadors on bottoms. Aquarian on the kick. Tune them all up and you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ocean vs thesand Posted August 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 i want to say 8 or 9 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I don't understand why they would not be loud enough. Muffling a drum quiets it, so unmuffled drums are as loud as they get. Playing in a large open space sounds different than playing in a small room because you don't get the immediate reflected sound coming to you. The drums are just as loud. They just don't sound the same to the drummer. If you are comparing the drums to an electric guitar, your acoustic drums will easily be louder than an acoustic guitar or a guitar played through a small practice amp. A cranked up stack--no. That is what drum mics are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ocean vs thesand Posted August 29, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 yeah, i'm battling with two half-stacks and a bass tower. apparently these drums are cheap pieces of {censored} like i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snake Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 It's not the drums, it's the situation. Rockstars are good mid-level drums, but if you're playing in a large concrete room with 2 guitar players and a bass player, that's a lot of noise to compete with. Unless your drums are miked, they probably won't cut through very well. Other than miking the kit (or having the other guys turn it down), the only thing I can think of to make them louder would be to remove the reso heads. The drums won't sound as good, but they'll very attack-heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rca Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 Your problem is not that the drums are not loud enough. Your problem is the other band members are playing too loud. When you are in rehearsal, you have no need for Front of House amplication--which is what those 4 speaker cabs are. You only need monitors. That is usually one 12 inch or 15 inch (typically for more bass) personal monitor for the drummer. There is a reason small combo amps are called practice amps. If the rest of the band refuses to set the amps to a reasonable volume, then don't set up near the amps. If you double the distance between you and the amps, it is just as effective as if the amp's volume was cut to 1/4th of what it was. Wearing hearing protection will protect your ears from the too loud guitars and bass, but it won't help the monitoring situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rumblebelly Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by ocean vs thesand yeah, i'm battling with two half-stacks and a bass tower. apparently these drums are cheap pieces of {censored} like i thought. Good Gawd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by ocean vs thesand i want to say 8 or 9 months ago ...and I want to say that I practice my rudiements daily and brush and floss after every meal. Both are complete lies.... I've got the same drums, and the head combo that Ignited pointed out. That and some tuning gives me results that I'm extremely pleased with. It ain't the drums, it's the overall volume you're competing with. "Better" drums might not even be louder if you were to purchase them, depending on what you got..they might even be quieter. Either tell the guys with the big amps to bring it down from "11" something more reasonable, or buy a PA, mic your drums and continue the policy of Mutual Assured Deafness. Worked for Reagan in the '80s against the commies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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