Members Gremson Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I know some come stock this way. I'm just curious what you guys say about a home done job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGirlfriend Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 you can drill me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 ooh, hot. I just ended up trading my newbeat bottom for a quickbeat. Certainly a little drier, and no air lock can happen. If you do it yourself you'll surely need a drill bit for metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted May 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I wonder where to drill, or how big the holes should be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 the quickbeat's holes are the same size as the center, but I doubt there's an exact science to their reason. Probably just saving on changing drill bit size. I'd find where you want the first hole, tape or draw a line straight across and follow the lathe groove. A three hole pattern would look cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zarazabas Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I wonder where to drill, or how big the holes should be.... Hmmm, will i take the bait......? nah, i'll leave it. Too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted May 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm just worried about compromising the integrity of the cymbal by drilling in the wrong place. How much do you guys think it would change the tone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 anytime you drill the integrity is somewhat affected, but I wouldn't worry about creating a weird overtone from a bottom hat. Honestly I doubt there is a wrong place, I've seen them on the bell, the bow, and the sabian EQ's on the edge. Holes are mostly for a cleaner chick (which I'm sure you're not used to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted May 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I might have to get out and drill some holes in my New Beat tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 Holes are mostly for a cleaner chick (which I'm sure you're not used to) zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 It also helps eliminate lock up which I'm not sure he's used to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 Funny, in 45 years of drumming I've never experienced "hat lock." Maybe it's because I tilt the bottom cymbal with the built-in tilter designed for the purpose? It's a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melvinspeed Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm just worried about compromising the integrity of the cymbal by drilling in the wrong place. How much do you guys think it would change the tone? If you do it right, she should be singing by the time you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 just measure them out evenly.......do NOT!!!use a regular drillbit.........find or borrow a stepped bit or a uni-bit....they do a much nicer job and drill very smoothly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vinniewannabe Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 Funny, in 45 years of drumming I've never experienced "hat lock." Maybe it's because I tilt the bottom cymbal with the built-in tilter designed for the purpose? It's a mystery. Me too. I've NEVER had any of my hihats do this. I tilt mine ever-so-slighty...but even in the cases where the hithats were flat on the stand, no air- lock ever happened. Grem, if you have extra hihats to mess around with, then I would say fine, try it, but I wouldnt drill my only hihats. The bottom of a Quick Beat cymbal is almost flat with no bell. There (might) be a reason for why they do this. Maybe to compensate for the drill holes in some way? I dunno, I'm not a cymbal maker or anything...but almost all Zildjian hihats have bells on the bottom cymbals...except for the Quick Beats. There may be a link between the holes and the flat bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 15" New Beat top/Quick Beat bottom has been my go-to hat combination since I bought them new in '78. The flat QB bottom is a seriously dry, high-pitched cymbal, and I believe the holes help with freedom-of-movement when articulating with the top cymbal, as there can never be even a small amount of motion-inhibiting suction. Combined, that dryness and always-free-rocking motion deliver a subtle degree of sustain control range that I just don't get with other hats. On the downside, that dryness, (to which the holes probably even add), can, in some situations, result in a weak presence, which is why I favored the 15-inchers over a smaller size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ac30guy Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 Just buy the Sabian hats with the holes in them, that way you don't chance messing up your hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGirlfriend Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm just worried about compromising the integrity of the cymbal by drilling in the wrong place. it's happened before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lossforgain Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 A three hole pattern would look cool. See also: Sabian AA Flat hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 Me too. I've NEVER had any of my hihats do this. I blame either swamp gas or mass hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 Why the {censored} would you drill holes in your hi hat cymbal? You didn't mention having any problems with it. Don't be stupid man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGirlfriend Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 drill girls, not cymbals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted May 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 Why the {censored} would you drill holes in your hi hat cymbal?You didn't mention having any problems with it.Don't be stupid man. I knew somebody would chime in with something like this. I don't really want to, I was just thinking about it, and was curious what y'all thought about it.:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 I had some k/z's with the bottom drilled. Sounded really cool, problem being that they were 13" hats, and one I got the 16's, the 13's sounded wimpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 I wonder where to drill, or how big the holes should be.... Make at least one test drill on the the lady with the irresistible urge of getting drilled. Then measure the position and diameter of the hole; draw a round plan and drill the hat accordingly. Alternatively you can staple the lady and the hat and make one free form drill all at once. The hole on my drum&bass/hi-tec style speed hats are 1" and three of them... nothing for you because I have three dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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