Members cdawg Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 so, i've had this yamaha power-v snare for years. too cheap to sell, too good in condition to throw away. but, it just rang like a bell, drove me nuts. i'd lay a zero ring on it, but it was a one trick pony. i tried different heads and snares, but i really didn't want to spend too much money on it. besides, it' wasn't worth it. wasn't my main snare. then i thought of spraying the inside with a rubber coating to absorb some ringing. it f*cking worked. twelve coats of spray (the can cost about $6.) every 20 mins, i could apply a new coat. whole thing dried in 4 hours, but i waited to assemble over night to be sure. and it looks cool. just taped the holes with painter's tape and sprayed. any excess spray was easily cleaned up with a razor. i figured if it was overkill, i could scrape some rubber off, but it ended up being perfect. it sounds like a hard wood. a tiny bit too much overtone, but i plan on getting some fat snares, and maybe a ps3 head, or the aquarian focus-x. below are pix of first coat, finished product, several coats and product used (don't know why it's not in order. tried to upload multiple times. fail.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FitchFY Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 Dude, that is REALLY neat. Like really, really neat. Kudos on thinking out side the box! I'm wondering what the sonic capabilities and nuances of rubber are now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionfunk Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 What a great idea! I'd love to hear what that sounds like. There are only about 2 or 3 metal snare drums, I've ever heard, that I loved the sound of. I might have to buy an old beater just to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lsits Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 Did you use anything to prime the metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Ostinato Posted October 18, 2011 Members Share Posted October 18, 2011 This has a huge coolness factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeakerArk Posted October 19, 2011 Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Very excellent idea! Would love to hear a before and after. I've got an old steel shell Pearl snare that's as ringy as all get out. . . might have to try this techinque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Did you use anything to prime the metal? nope. i thought of scuffing it with steel wool, and would prolly do so in the future. but, i didn't because if it was overkill, i was going to cut a 1-inch ring around the inside and remove a circle of rubber to add some ring. but it wasn't needed. after this, i would gladly pick up another cheapy, another depth, and apply the same technique. for a $6 can, why the hell not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 oh, and sorry for no sounds. i really don't have a good way to record. i can only say the high-pitched ring really gave me a headache. it was ok when i didn't know anything about snares. right now there's a slight ring that would be more controllable with more spray, i'm sure. but. like i said, i'll try more snares and a different head.i should mention, you can get that paint in a small can, too. so you can apply it with a brush. it would take longer, but i'd imagine you could apply it a little thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 i did note that it would probably work better if i painted the outside of the drum as well. after all, the edge curves in from the outside. but, even with scuffing, the rubber would surely peel off with much ease. which poses the question: is there a way to apply rubber to the outside of a metal snare? possibly scuffing and epoxying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 creative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 tell you what, i've seen some interesting old snares at flea markets that i've passed up due to the steel. this snare really turned me off. knowing this, i'll really reconsider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 looks nice. The concept reminds me of an acro that was posted a while back with a wood shell mounted internally. I've never really thought of just muffling the shell, I suppose it'd be another place you could put a moongel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionfunk Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 WTF is that post above all about?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 don't know, but i'll be damned if i'm hittin any of those links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 Snare drum spray on condoms...protect yourself from overtones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 Snare drum spray on condoms...protect yourself from overtones ask and you shall receive... http://gizmodo.com/217933/german-wang-spray-is-instant-condom-from-liquid-rubber-to-sweet-love-in-one-second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckin Fastard Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 But how much spray did you huff tho, dawg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 that {censored}'s too expensive to huff. i huff gasoline. sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devinw Posted October 20, 2011 Members Share Posted October 20, 2011 i did note that it would probably work better if i painted the outside of the drum as well. after all, the edge curves in from the outside. but, even with scuffing, the rubber would surely peel off with much ease.which poses the question: is there a way to apply rubber to the outside of a metal snare? possibly scuffing and epoxying? You can get this stuff you dip tools into and it rubberizes the handles. Also, you can buy rattle can spray pickup truck "bed liner" that is very rubber-y. Probably deadens sound like a mofo too. That's basically what they spray the inside of your cars metal panels with as sound deadening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 You can get this stuff you dip tools into and it rubberizes the handles. that's what i used. same exact stuff. it's just in spray form. the truck spray-liner stuff was twice the price, so i opted for this stuff. they also have a spray undercoating that would prolly do. once again, about twice the cost. too bad i cant see a sample of the stuff before i buy. i'd imagine the bedliner crap would spray on thicker. food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devinw Posted October 21, 2011 Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nice! Good choice on material. That's about the best you are gonna do for sound deadening in a can! I think the truck bed liner stuff is just supposed to go on textured for grip... probably not much thicker but perhaps dries a bit tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted October 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nice! Good choice on material. That's about the best you are gonna do for sound deadening in a can! I think the truck bed liner stuff is just supposed to go on textured for grip... probably not much thicker but perhaps dries a bit tougher. that says it all, brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 21, 2011 Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 Other soggestions, bake shellventilate shell, crop circles whatnotbraze crap to shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agogobill Posted October 21, 2011 Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have a Tama steel shell with the same problem. I used gaffer tape on the inside. Your solution looks much nicer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 21, 2011 Members Share Posted October 21, 2011 That reminds me. I have a Tama steel - might be the same one. It disappears periodically.My solution and trust me this works on any drum; appreciate the ring. Sounds great now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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