Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I’m at work and right now on the radio there’s a Big Audio Dynamite song playing…you know that guy? He was in The Clash or something before…he’s quite unpleasant to behold. Pale, scrawny, weird eyes, bad teeth, limp hair…yeah. His voice also is nothing to write home about. Lol. Then you’ve got all the “hot girl” singers and the divas… Then you get Lady Gaga…not hot, but not ugly either…quite boring to look at in “real life” (without makeup and costumes), but she is ODD and dresses crazily and has become her Gaga persona. So do you have to be either of these things to be noticed and to make it? And if so, which would you be? Lol. I’d be Lady G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted April 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2011 Its all about image and marketing. And also some good song hooks. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yes, it is. I wonder how we’d all be marketed if we were “out there” in the music industry, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted April 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yes, it is. I wonder how we’d all be marketed if we were “out there” in the music industry, eh? Not really sure. I occasionally think about from time to time. But I have no idea.DISCUSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yes…HOW WOULD WE ALL BE MARKETED, PEOPLE!? How would Davie, me, Duke, Vardy, Amelia (LOL), Eightstring, Johnny, Amx, Rod, Static…how would we be marketed by people in the BIZ!? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted April 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2011 The very first thing to know about marketing is the 4P's! lol That is.. product, promotion, place and price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snowcow Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Then you’ve got all the “hot girl” singers and the divas… Really ugly and really talentless works for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted April 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2011 Gracie, your marketing and image has to coincide with your songs. For image I'm thinking something similar to Imogen Heap, or one of those sensible songstresses. But I think you include more rock-type songs into the mix and might it more interesting and upbeat. For Vardy, I know he likes stuff like broadway, crossover music and pop like Josh Groban, so maybe something like Josh in terms of image and music. Ame... let me think on this one. lol Eightstring's strong point is obviously hard rock. A seasoned rock singer, can't think of any examples at the moment. Johnny, is more of a singer-songwriter type with sensitive lyrics. maybe like a Modern-day Simon and Garfunkel? lol. i dunno. I'll think some more later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Heh, what's a "sensible songstress"? I refuse to ever be compared to anyone ERNEST like the Indigo Girls or Melissa Etheridge. No lesbo singers for me, thanks. I see people like this for me... Kate Bush weirdness and eccentricity, unique voice Goldfrapp more folky but occasionally more electro-stuff Regina Spektor, piano pop, with weird bits For Vardy, I can see a Josh Groban or a broadway-infused RnB kinda guy...that'd be really cool actually! lol Doesn't Eightstring sound just like Frank Sinatra and stuff? lol. He could be Frank crossed with a hard rock guy. A modern, debonair hard rocker. Johnny...I keep seeing a young Peter Gabriel cause he sounds like Peter...but yes, Simon & Garfunkel maybe...except there's just one of him. So he could be called Sarfunkel or Gimon. One of 'em. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I was watching some Mamas & Papas Youtube clips to get inspiration for a new song in my head, and I realised... I don't want to be like Michelle Phillips, even though she was the hot one in the group... I want to be Mama Cass, in terms of the voice... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpzB_Akopug&feature=related You see? But I can feel that Karen Carpenter vibe in the Michelle Phillips song I posted up there...and I can also feel ME doing that, and I don't WANT that!!!!!!!! Dammit! *calming down* That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 making it in the biz doesnt necessarily mean being famous or becoming a star... many musicians make a good living playing and singing, giving lessons, writing/performing commercials or jingles, playing covers, doing studio work... and from my perspective it's important to remember that the success stories dont necessarily need to be musical or even sing well... to be a "popular" figure, one needs to be photogenic, look good on stage, have money behind you, and be willing to sacrifice anything to get where you want to be... sad, but thats the industry... on the brighter side, just like i started out saying, you dont need to be a star or famous to "make it" in the biz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shadowdusk Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Gracie, for some reason, I think you might turn out like Jim Morisson - at first an EXTREMELY shy guy, writing lyrics in the privacy of his home and turning his back on the audience cause he couldn't handle the pressure, only to later turn out into a drug fueled monster with an alter ego and constant outbursts. ( Jim was my favorite singer for a long time, so this is a compliment xD ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Oh my GOD, so I'll end up DEAD!?!? Thanks a bunch! LMAO! You know...I can see this...if I let fame go to my head...I'd lose it. I know it already. lol. Very sad...tragic even. *tear* lol I already have outbursts at times, have had issues with drugs, and am weird. So yay me! I look forward to my untimely death at...27...oh wait, I'm already older than that. Damn. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shadowdusk Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 All the great ones left at 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I know. Janis, Jim, uh...someone else whose name also began with J...Jimi, that's it...all the J-name people died at 27...weird, eh? I am 5 years too late. Makes me feel lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shadowdusk Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I'm only 18 so I still have time. I think I'm also weird enough, only lack talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Ha! I'm sure you don't lack talent, my man. You're fine and dandy. I am a tad tipsy right about now. WOO! WOOOOO OOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shadowdusk Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Ha! I'm sure you don't lack talent, my man. You're fine and dandy. I am a tad tipsy right about now. WOO! WOOOOO OOOO! haha lucky you , it's noon here I'd love to get wasted but I kind of have to go to school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Lol, It's always happy hour some where.I don't get why people like to get tipsy. I hate it! It's like being permanently dizzy, I can't shake my head to get rid of it.Drunk is kinda fun though, liquid courage! I wouldn't mind a Groban-esque image but with a little more edge since I'm an avid gym goer and a health nut.RnB+Groban? Would be interesting, so his kind of music with RnB style runs and riffs? I'll actually give that a try. And out of the images you presented Grace, I'd probably pick the diva. I can't go as crazy as Gaga but the less conventional, humble outsider one might work for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Look, being good-looking helps with everything. There are studies that show better-looking women get paid more than average looking women in the workplace, better-looking women marry wealthier/more successful men than average or below-average women, etc. But although looks are a large piece of the pie, they're not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Do you want to make it in the biz or do you want to evolve into and beyond an accomplished musician? This seems to me a relevant question for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 Masklin wants to know if he's a hottie or a nottie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members staticsound Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 These days, for females anyways...hot definitely. "They" can take any pretty face, write some hooky tunes, and then auto-tune her to death. Gaga is an exception, she's not hot persay, but truth be told...she's got some talent and a really great gimmick. IMO, these days artists such as Mama Cass and Janis Joplin, as talented as they were, would have never made it. It's all about being easy on the eyes. Myself, I would like to marketed Beiber style. Pimp me out at malls and walmart...hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted April 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 LMAO@beiber, noooooo! Can you imagine that for you!?!? WRONG! *beeep sound of WRONG button on gameshow* Masklin...I want to make it in the biz so I CAN evolve into what I want to be and not have to do other things that take me away from that...like my day job. BORING! It feels like I'm wasting my time, sitting around, typing...when all I want to do is do MY thing, MY music. If someone makes it in the biz, they can do their music all the time. In a way. I'm aware it's not that simple and it does then BECOME your day job, which isn't always (and probably is only a minority of the time) being able to actually MAKE music and be creative, which is what I want. I'd have no interest whatsoever in making it if I couldn't do my own thing. No point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 Masklin wants to know if he's a hottie or a nottie. Men don't channel sex appeal from looks in the way women do in the eyes of men. Regardless, I happen to know that I'm a hottie, I don't need to ask. Grace, you could always try to become a session musician. They make tons of money, no? Making it in the biz will probably not let you do your thing the way you'd like. Just look at all the IDOL winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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