plumpoldman 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid I will, I promise. I just gotta wait for the right deal. I got all of these amps at below fair market. I also think the Genz Benz and the iAmp might already be sold to fellow forumites. I'll pass on the good deals I get to you guys after I run them through the wringer to reiview them. You are the man! Your bandmates must think you're crazy though:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woofenstein 0 Posted February 22, 2004 this is a great thread! good job juggs! keep us posted on round 2! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHandDan 0 Posted February 22, 2004 All hail, Jugghaid! Truly the Guardian of the Groove. Great job, man, thanks. CHD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassment zombie 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by MageZ And on Ashdown note - ABM and MAG series sound different - there are people who prefer the MAG. Not too many Jugghaid - fabulous job! This was the most informative and interesting idea/thread I've read in a really long time...love it! Keep 'em coming...quite a public service for us here, in my opinion, and we certainly appreciate it! *highfive* Too bad we're not local...I'd let you borrow my ABM500 EVO II (by the way, the EVO II has some improvements over the EVO I ...it'd be best if you could get your hands on one of those) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnyswonger 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Outstanding post Jugghaid! You're doing a real service here. I wasn't a bit surprised the Ampeg won round 1, but what everyone has to bear in here is the bottom line is your taste - but the way you've organized your evaluations is terrific. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by bnyswonger Outstanding post Jugghaid! You're doing a real service here. I wasn't a bit surprised the Ampeg won round 1, but what everyone has to bear in here is the bottom line is your taste - but the way you've organized your evaluations is terrific. Very true. A lot of this is personal preference. I'm looking for the amp that most suits my needs and wants. Everyone is a bit different in what they want and need out of a bass amp. For instance, one thing that annoyed me a little bit about the EA iAmp 500 is the fact that the power switch is on the back of the amp, while all the others were on the front. Why would you want the power switch on the back of a rack mount amp? It makes it a pain in the ass to turn it on and off when you have to reach through the back of your rack every time. Some people probably don't care about that....I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by bassment zombie Not too many Jugghaid - fabulous job! This was the most informative and interesting idea/thread I've read in a really long time...love it! Keep 'em coming...quite a public service for us here, in my opinion, and we certainly appreciate it! *highfive* Too bad we're not local...I'd let you borrow my ABM500 EVO II (by the way, the EVO II has some improvements over the EVO I ...it'd be best if you could get your hands on one of those) The new EVO II 500 chrome rackmount one is the one I'm currently looking at getting. I'll probably try out a MAG seires anyway just for posterity's sake and to see what the differences are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Rontal 0 Posted February 22, 2004 just a note. It seems that Aguilar has released a new hybrid two channel amp, the db500 I think it is. I saw an add for it in this month's bass player. Looks pretty sweet, although the all-tube versions are where these babies really shine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Andy Rontal just a note. It seems that Aguilar has released a new hybrid two channel amp, the db500 I think it is. I saw an add for it in this month's bass player. Looks pretty sweet, although the all-tube versions are where these babies really shine. Yup. I posted a thread on it a few weeks aho when they announced it at NAMM. Looks like it will be their "budget" head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazz Ad 2 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid Yup. Shocked my happy ass. I used to own this amp, so I'm only half surprised. You should include the Mesa 400+ in your contest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassment zombie 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jazz Ad You should include the Mesa 400+ in your contest. Jazzy, Don't you think it'd be best to compare all tube heads against all tube heads? As far as I can tell, each of the amps he's tested in his comparison thusfar have had solid state power sections, and it wouldn't be in the spirit of consistency for him to throw in one single all tube head...however, I'd love to see a tube head amp shootout as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwalmz 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Great job and very informative! A few more suggestions if you can. Hartke 5500 Carvin R1000 GK-1001RB-III Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaesh 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Andy Rontal just a note. It seems that Aguilar has released a new hybrid two channel amp, the db500 I think it is. I saw an add for it in this month's bass player. Looks pretty sweet, although the all-tube versions are where these babies really shine. Actually it's all solid-state and called AG500. Worth a try either way IMHO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Rontal 0 Posted February 22, 2004 all solid-state? meh... It's the tubey-ness of the Aguilars that I really dig. Darn... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by bassment zombie Jazzy, Don't you think it'd be best to compare all tube heads against all tube heads? As far as I can tell, each of the amps he's tested in his comparison thusfar have had solid state power sections, and it wouldn't be in the spirit of consistency for him to throw in one single all tube head...however, I'd love to see a tube head amp shootout as well I'm planning on doing an all tube shootout as well. Ampeg SVT (classic or an 70's one) Mesa 400+ Marshall VBA 400 Ampeg SVT-2 PRO Sunn 300T (or Fender Bassman 300) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassment zombie 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid I'm planning on doing an all tube shootout as well. Ampeg SVT (classic or an 70's one) Mesa 400+ Marshall VBA 400 Ampeg SVT-2 PRO Sunn 300T (or Fender Bassman 300) perfect Just rambling here, but one thing I've found with amps (and especially tube amps) is that their 'bedroom' tone can have very little relevance to that amps performance in the mix...this is what makes it really hard for me in terms of selecting gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by bassment zombie perfect Just rambling here, but one thing I've found with amps (and especially tube amps) is that their 'bedroom' tone can have very little relevance to that amps performance in the mix...this is what makes it really hard for me in terms of selecting gear. yup. That's why I demand they perform at rehearsal and not just me playing in the basement. 2 different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Rontal 0 Posted February 22, 2004 very true. amps can sound entirely different quiet and "at volume", I term I use to suggest an ams true useful volume when playing with others. The GK combo I used to have, for instance, sounded warm but fairly clean at quiet volume. At gig volume it sounded harsh, brittle and incredibly aggressive. Not the amp for me once I started playing gigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikgag 0 Posted February 22, 2004 gear-whore equipment-bitch amp-slut rig-wench Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der oxenrig 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid I'm planning on doing an all tube shootout as well. Ampeg SVT (classic or an 70's one) Mesa 400+ Marshall VBA 400 Ampeg SVT-2 PRO Sunn 300T (or Fender Bassman 300) If you happen to find one for a REALLY good price, could you also try out a Hiwatt/Reeves DR201?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der oxenrig 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by mikgag gear-whore equipment-bitch amp-slut rig-wench Juggs, would you like me to beat mikgag to a bloody pulp again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassment zombie 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid yup. That's why I demand they perform at rehearsal and not just me playing in the basement. 2 different things. *highfive* from the superpup, bud Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by The Ox If you happen to find one for a REALLY good price, could you also try out a Hiwatt/Reeves DR201?? If I can find one....yeah. How many watts is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jugghaid 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by The Ox Juggs, would you like me to beat mikgag to a bloody pulp again? Not til he's done with my bass body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der oxenrig 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Jugghaid If I can find one....yeah. How many watts is it? A very conservative 200 watts, although i've heard of them producing much more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites