Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Any advice on cheapo solid states bass or guitar amps that give wicked dirty/fuzz sound? ala 'Death from above '79' or 'White Stripes'! Somewhere around 100-200W range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members megadan Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Solid state's not going to do that, I'm afraid. for the DFA sound, look for an old all tube Traynor head, a vintage 9x10 or 4x12 or 2x15, and crank everything to 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KeroseneTrewthe Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 You want to emulate a band that doesnt even use a bass player?? Youre gonna need some pedals with a solid state amp. Or an expensive tube amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by KeroseneTrewthe You want to emulate a band that doesnt even use a bass player?? Youre gonna need some pedals with a solid state amp. Or an expensive tube amp. DFA '79 has no guitarist, and Stripes has no bassest - what do ya mean???? I don't wanna emulate these bands, just get a real dirty fuzz sound going on!!! I have a Big Muff for fuzz - just looking for a cheapo solid state to crank up and fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by trash maker DFA '79 has no guitarist, and Stripes has no bassest - what do ya mean???? I don't wanna emulate these bands, just get a real dirty fuzz sound going on!!!I have a Big Muff for fuzz - just looking for a cheapo solid state to crank up and fire? So...you already have your fuzz producer, you're just looking for a SS amp to provide the power? 100-200 watts, there are loads of choices. What's your budget? Do you need a good deal of variety of tones from the head, or do you just need the power without flexibility, bells-n-whistles, etc. so you can dial in your fuzz and whatnot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KeroseneTrewthe Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Find an old Peavey Mark 3 on the 'bay. That should be cheap and get you the wattage youre looking for. Plus they are reliable from what Ive heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Ashdown EVO, from all reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by bassment zombie So...you already have your fuzz producer, you're just looking for a SS amp to provide the power? 100-200 watts, there are loads of choices. What's your budget? Do you need a good deal of variety of tones from the head, or do you just need the power without flexibility, bells-n-whistles, etc. so you can dial in your fuzz and whatnot? Budget... maximum $500 plus really need a combo, as I'll have to take it on the subway! So no monster heavy bruts!!!! Tone really isn't important here, dirty fuzz will distory any tone anyway, so looking for something cheap and cheerful. Any idea's? Peavey M3 sounds ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by trash maker Budget... maximum $500 plus really need a combo, as I'll have to take it on the subway! So no monster heavy bruts!!!! Tone really isn't important here, dirty fuzz will distory any tone anyway, so looking for something cheap and cheerful. Any idea's?Peavey M3 sounds ok? Scratch the Peavey, as it's not a combo. I guess we're getting somewhere now that you've shared more detail. Well, here's the thing...if you want a very light combo amp, you'll pay a good deal of $ for it, in general. Do you plan to use a hand truck for transport on the subway? That's the way to go, in my opinion. If you use the hand truck, you have a great deal more flexibility because the weight and size of the amp isn't nearly as important with the assistance of the hand truck. Will you be keeping the amp at home, or someplace else? If you're keeping it at home, what floor do you live on, and what would the situation be like transporting it up/down to/from your apartment...etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by bassment zombie Scratch the Peavey, as it's not a combo.I guess we're getting somewhere now that you've shared more detail.Well, here's the thing...if you want a very light combo amp, you'll pay a good deal of $ for it, in general.Do you plan to use a hand truck for transport on the subway? That's the way to go, in my opinion. If you use the hand truck, you have a great deal more flexibility because the weight and size of the amp isn't nearly as important with the assistance of the hand truck. Will you be keeping the amp at home, or someplace else? If you're keeping it at home, what floor do you live on, and what would the situation be like transporting it up/down to/from your apartment...etc... What's a hand truck? Anyway I live in the basement of an apartment block, which isn't great for moving an amp around, which is why I wanted a combo! But will store it at home. The Peavey mark 3 does come in a combo - only it's 30+ yrs old!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by trash maker What's a hand truck? Originally posted by trash maker Anyway I live in the basement of an apartment block, which isn't great for moving an amp around, which is why I wanted a combo! But will store it at home. The Peavey mark 3 does come in a combo - only it's 30+ yrs old!!!! I stand corrected: I thought it was only a head. Well, contrary to what you think here, a head-cabinet rig will be MUCH easier to move in general than a combo. Think about it...a head and cabinet are seperated, and thus much easier to move up and down stairs individually, rather than lugging a large single unit combo (also, you're much more likely to to be 'rough' on the combo due to it being unweildy during transport). I live in Boston on the 3rd floor of a multi-family house...windy, narrow stairs all the way up...I know the deal. Seperate head-cab are the way to go. My amp weighs a bit over 20 pounds, and my Bag End S15-D cabinets weigh 40 pounds each. Many times, I only need to use a single of those Bag End cabinets. Its so much easier making 2 seperate quick and easy trips up and down the stairs with the small 40 pound cube cabinet, and the 20 pound head with my bass and accessories. I highly suggest you go with a head-cabinet rig. You will have a great deal of flexibility and the ability to selectively upgrade when you can and want to along the way. If you can find a used Yorkville BM400H, it would be wonderful for you. Plenty of power (300 watts @8 ohms, 400 watts @ 4ohms, conservatively rated), and a used cabinet of your choice (or even a new Avatar cabinet), you'd be in your budget and have a great performing rig that you wouldn't need to upgrade for quite some time (if at all). Again, I highly suggest the seperate head/cabinet, and thus, Peaveys would be a great choice as well. I particularly like the Mark IV head. What type of band are you playing with? What type of volume do you need...how hard does the drummer play, what's the guitarist using for amplification...what venues will you be playing in...etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by bassment zombie I stand corrected: I thought it was only a head. Well, contrary to what you think here, a head-cabinet rig will be MUCH easier to move in general than a combo. Think about it...a head and cabinet are seperated, and thus much easier to move up and down stairs individually, rather than lugging a large single unit combo (also, you're much more likely to to be 'rough' on the combo due to it being unweildy during transport). I live in Boston on the 3rd floor of a multi-family house...windy, narrow stairs all the way up...I know the deal. Seperate head-cab are the way to go. My amp weighs a bit over 20 pounds, and my Bag End S15-D cabinets weigh 40 pounds each. Many times, I only need to use a single of those Bag End cabinets. Its so much easier making 2 seperate quick and easy trips up and down the stairs with the small 40 pound cube cabinet, and the 20 pound head with my bass and accessories. I highly suggest you go with a head-cabinet rig. You will have a great deal of flexibility and the ability to selectively upgrade when you can and want to along the way. If you can find a used Yorkville BM400H, it would be wonderful for you. Plenty of power (300 watts @8 ohms, 400 watts @ 4ohms, conservatively rated), and a used cabinet of your choice (or even a new Avatar cabinet), you'd be in your budget and have a great performing rig that you wouldn't need to upgrade for quite some time (if at all). Again, I highly suggest the seperate head/cabinet, and thus, Peaveys would be a great choice as well. I particularly like the Mark IV head. What type of band are you playing with? What type of volume do you need...how hard does the drummer play, what's the guitarist using for amplification...what venues will you be playing in...etc... Thanx for the advice. Thinking the head/cab might be best! Playing in a indie/garage rock band (well, starting anyway). No guitarist, just me (bass), singer and a drummer. Got an EB-0 and along with a fuzz, octave and booster pedals can get ok garage rock sound, which is why I wanna get a new rig to get a good dirty/heavy sound - ideally a sound of my own, but obviously this depends on amp and pedal setups! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by trash maker Got an EB-0 and along with a fuzz, octave and booster pedals oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by lug oh my. I know! But it's good for Garage Rock! I'm happy with it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 I can't believe I'm the first to say this. An Ampeg V-4/V-4B. I know mine has some sswwweeeetttt distortion. I got mine for 400ish plus some new power tubes and I got it for 500. 71 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 For all the people who say a SS amp won't do this. WRONG! Get an older peavey combo like a TKO 80 and crank the pre gain up then use the post gain for volume. You wll get all the distortion your little heart desires. Just make sure it's one of the older ones That was my first amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Acoustic amps were probably the dirtiest SS heads ever & they did make a couple combos. Tough to find on the 'Bay but they go for real cheap most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BEAD Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 I paid 200 for my sunn Beta Lead. I see them for sale pretty frequently. It gets pretty loud, has two identical channels that can be run at the same time, and can get very, very dirty. This was originally a combo, but many of them are out of the combo as solitary heads. The Beta Bass is the same head with a 15 under it, I think. I think the lead would come with two 12s designed for guitar, if you found one intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff Acoustic amps were probably the dirtiest SS heads ever & they did make a couple combos. Tough to find on the 'Bay but they go for real cheap most of the time. Yeah, I've heard Acoustic 360's are good for heavy distortion, is this true???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members megadan Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 You can see Jesse's gear ok in these pics I found: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trash maker Posted August 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by megadan You can see Jesse's gear ok in these pics I found: Jesse uses a Traynor's and an Acoustic right???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members megadan Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Yup, pretty sure that the cab is a Traynor, I never got close enough to see the head, but that's probably what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fureybass Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 The head in the second picture is definitely an Acoustic. Probably a 450 or 470. The blue strip is about the right color for that series. I have a 470, it's perfect. The top one looks like a Peavey. Cabs a Traynor fo sho. Crazy-ass 9x10 Dirty cheap SS goodness is to be had via Traynor MonoBloc amps (Sweep the Leg Johnny, RIP), Sunns Beta (150 watts), Concert (200 w) or Coliseum (300 w) and Acoustics. I would again recommend a separate component system. probably have to be 2x10 b/c of Subway-ness. But cab in one hand, head in the other with bass and such in a back pack should be ideal. With a hand truck/ luiggage cart, you may be able to go bigger. But I've always had a pickup truck for gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BEAD Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 Originally posted by fureybass The head in the second picture is definitely an Acoustic. Probably a 450 or 470. The blue strip is about the right color for that series. I have a 470, it's perfect. The top one looks like a Peavey. Cabs a Traynor fo sho. Crazy-ass 9x10 Dirty cheap SS goodness is to be had via Traynor MonoBloc amps (Sweep the Leg Johnny, RIP), Sunns Beta (150 watts), Concert (200 w) or Coliseum (300 w) and Acoustics. I would again recommend a separate component system. probably have to be 2x10 b/c of Subway-ness. But cab in one hand, head in the other with bass and such in a back pack should be ideal. With a hand truck/ luiggage cart, you may be able to go bigger. But I've always had a pickup truck for gigs. sends pm to bnyswonger "Quick, someone just said something good about a sunn coliseum amp! Refute! Refute!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin Posted August 3, 2005 Members Share Posted August 3, 2005 And he's playing a Ric and a Gibson Grabber. Both similar sounding basses in some respect, both very garage band worthy I wonder if a cheap head and an Avatar cab of some sort would be a good idea. Do Avatar make a 6x10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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