Members L-1329 Posted August 8, 2005 Members Posted August 8, 2005 I think that I am what you might call 'compositionally challanged'. Seems that I can come up with fairly cool riffs and progressions, but am unable to develop them into complete pieces. It's like the initial spark is there, but then as soon as I get a basic part down it's gone. Anyone have any ways that they beat creative blocks? It is very cool to turn a real rough idea into a full groove, but I need to really find a way to keep developing them into full songs without losing the energy and feel. Some of this stuff I think could be pretty good, but it will take a lot of work yet. Any of y'all ever been in the same boat?
Members SpaceGhost Posted August 8, 2005 Members Posted August 8, 2005 Originally posted by L-1329 Any of y'all ever been in the same boat? Yup. This almost always happens to me but thankfully the guitarist with whom I jam with is almost always on the same page as me and he adds in the rest to make a rough sketch of the entire song which than the entire band works together. I really want to be able to just write something completly on my own.
Members LanEvo Posted August 9, 2005 Members Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by L-1329 Anyone have any ways that they beat creative blocks? It is very cool to turn a real rough idea into a full groove, but I need to really find a way to keep developing them into full songs without losing the energy and feel.It's very hard to write a complete song from the bassline up. Even a song that's known for it's bassline, like "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen, started with a keyboard progression. Do you record your creative sessions? That might help. Run your bass into your computer or whatever and record your noodling. Then come back to it at a later time and see what grabs you. Emre
Members L-1329 Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by LanEvo It's very hard to write a complete song from the bassline up. Even a song that's known for it's bassline, like "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen, started with a keyboard progression. Do you record your creative sessions? That might help. Run your bass into your computer or whatever and record your noodling. Then come back to it at a later time and see what grabs you. Emre Actually the bass is almost always the last part I add. I record idea's on an 8 track with a drum machine. Usually start with a rhythm track and guitar riff, then add other guitars, and bass. What i end up with is a basic mix of a riff that I could use as a part of a tune, but that's where I get stuck. I'd love to be able to write music from the bassline up, but I'd have to actually be a real bassist to do that.
Members L-1329 Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by SpaceGhost Yup. This almost always happens to me but thankfully the guitarist with whom I jam with is almost always on the same page as me and he adds in the rest to make a rough sketch of the entire song which than the entire band works together. I really want to be able to just write something completly on my own. That is a thought I have had, to try to find a writing partner. I have no real band right now though, so that's out. Are you happy with the results and input from the others? I have been thinking that if I tried that it may be that the other writers won't 'get' my idea's or style.
Members D Aussie Posted August 9, 2005 Members Posted August 9, 2005 wow!I wish I could hang on to ideas long enuf to record them to a computer or whatever.I sing all the bits into a vouce recorder IMMEDIATLEY and try to write them down onto a note pad immediately. Mouth the beats..bumm cha cha cha tish.. and sing the geetar parts .. neeor neeow neeor nee.. And then I go theru the emotional turmoil of giving them bits to band mates for them to turn into their parts.I find it works .. slightlyt unorthodox.. but the voice recorder is always in the pocket and Im over being embarrased about singing these bits into it in the supermarket, on the train or walking down the street because we are all happy with the results.
Members SpaceGhost Posted August 9, 2005 Members Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by L-1329 I have been thinking that if I tried that it may be that the other writers won't 'get' my idea's or style. This is one of the main things you have to work on with people who aren't really on the same page as yourself. Both the guitarist and I essentially live on the same music so, in a way, he can pick up on the same vibe or direction of the song I
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