Members stratrobot Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 I'm going to get a bass rig soon. I have up to 500 dollars to spend on it, and I've heard a lot of good things about rondomusic.net so ive been checking their basses out. This is my plan, $250-300 on the bass amp, and up to $200 on the bass itself. Bass questions - What are the differences between the p and j bass? What is the difference in alder and ash body, and how would the tone differ? I'm looking at these basses .... http://www.rondomusic.net/sjb75.html http://www.rondomusic.net/spb57tm3ts.html http://www.rondomusic.net/sjb62mglpb.html and these amps. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/s=amps/search/detail/base_pid/482537/ http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/s=amps/search/detail/base_pid/482037/ http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/s=amps/search/detail/base_pid/482497/ I'd be looking to play general classic rock, metal, funk, and punk bass. So I'm looking for a versatile rig obviously. I'm also into other suggestions for basses and bass amps, if they fit my budget (up to $500). Thank you very much for any replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 I believe the SJB-75 has a 70s era Fender Jazz neck shape, thin like a Geddy Lee bass. The SJB-62 probably has the same electronics, but an early 60s shape neck (which I prefer, some prefer the 70s). The SPB-57 has a wider, fatter neck. The body is also slightly smaller and lighter, though less ergonomically shaped some would say. If you don't do any mods, I'd say the P bass is probably the one to go with. It does a good imitation of a classic P tone, which works for EVERYTHING. The Jazzes are good, but they'll hum if you solo either pickup and there are a lot of classic tones in soloed J pickups (JPJ with Zeppelin soloed his neck pickup, Jaco soloed his bridge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Thanks for the tips. I definetely don't want buzzing, so I might stay away from the j's. Hmm.. What about this? A p and a J pickup. http://www.rondomusic.net/spj62.html Also, what difference would the tone make between the maple fretboard and the rosewood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members januaryscar Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Maple = more 'growl' & definition in the mids, good for fingerstyle, slap. Nice and soft on the fingers.Rosewood = warmer, deeper, punchier sound. Nice for pickers, but also good for fingerstyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zebra Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by stratrobot Thanks for the tips. I definetely don't want buzzing, so I might stay away from the j's. Hmm..What about this? A p and a J pickup. http://www.rondomusic.net/spj62.htmlAlso, what difference would the tone make between the maple fretboard and the rosewood? A P/J will buzz. The single J without another J to cancel it out will buzz whenever it's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 With a P/J, you still get buzz, and unlike a typical J turning both pickups to the same volume doesn't eliminate the buzz. Your J will probably only add a little presence to the overall tone anyway. If you go for a P/J, you'll probably want to replace the pickup with a humbucking J, like a Dimarzio Ultra Jazz or a Bartolini or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fran da Man Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by januaryscar Nice and soft on the fingers. If you play inbetween the strings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Please don't buy any of those amps ...especially from Musician'sGuitarCenterFriend. That's like doing all your shopping at Wal Mart. Unless your playing with an unplugged(ex. folk) group, 1x12's are worthless as combos IMO. They're generally too bulky to use as a practice amp, and won't cut it in a typical band situation. If your looking to simply practice at home, so with something smaller than a breadbox, that's light, yet still sounds decent. The Peavey Minx or Microbass are good. Yorkville makes a 1x8 that's even better sounding. Roland has a model that's getting great reviews that's reasonably priced as well. If you want something to keep up with a loud drummer and g**tar, that's another story. Start with a 1x15 with at least 200 watts of power. Combos tend to get too bulky at this point, which is why I generally recommend separate head-n-cab setups, however(there's always a few exceptions) Peavey's TNT is a classic "1st gigging rig" that can really cut thru a band at only 100 watts! Ampeg's B100R is a much classier package(still only 100W) that still reasonably priced, yet loud as hell. Can't go wrong with Yorkville's 1x15 200W offering either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markee Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 I second T. Alan's choices here. Also. check your local craigslist.com for used gear as well. In Seattle for example, there seems to be good buys coming up every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1tallbassguy Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 I also agree that those amps are a mistake to buy.It is worse to spend too little and have no money left to really get what you want / need, than to spend a little too much and get what you want / need.Go used and be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Alright. So used is a better idea? I'll check around for some used amps. Thanks all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixgun77 Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 +10 on the Peavey TNT until you've gotten lots of cash for a rig and know exactly what type of sound you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ARES Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 i have the swr la12 and i tried out that gk backline as well, both are pretty nice. yes a little bulky, but they actually sounded good compared to other smaller amps i tried. but i was looking for an amp to satisfy my practice amp / acoustic jam needs, not for playing in a full band. no way would either keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Well Im looking for something that won't have a {censored}ty tone, so it will actually to fun to learn songs on and then later advance to a better amp. So the peavey is a good choice for that? I have bad feelings towards peavey though, because of their blazer series that i use as a guitar amp, which is kind of {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 TNT series amps don't sound too good, not the old ones anyway. Newer models sound a little better. I like the TKO amps from Peavey better, tonally, than the TNTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser TNT series amps don't sound too good, not the old ones anyway. Newer models sound a little better.I like the TKO amps from Peavey better, tonally, than the TNTs. TNTs don't sound good. They don't sound bad either. The quality is in their tank like construction & their ability to cut thru a mix with only around 100W. ...at an affordable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixgun77 Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 To me Peavey is mediocre in tone. Not bad, but not good either. You'll most likely never break a peavey though. My old Peavey MK3 got chucked down a flight of steps, got beer spilled inside of it, and even got pee'd in once and never quit working. I haven't noticed much difference in the TKO or the TNT series. They'll both get the job done, but do have a little bit different sound. They're workhorses, just don't expect tone as good as Fender or Ampeg or Trace Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Picker Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Zebra A P/J will buzz. The single J without another J to cancel it out will buzz whenever it's on. This statement makes no logical sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 11, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 I don't care much about wattage, it's just a practice amp. I want a get tone, I know for my budget, I'm not gonna get a professional tone, but I want something that will sound good for the price (around $300) and the time being, until I progress and get the money for a better amp. So, I'm gathering that Peaveys aren't that good tonewise, but they break through the mix? I don't care much about that, since I most likely won't be joining a band anytime soon, just playing at home and maybe with a guitarist (but I'm sure they wouldn't mind turning their volume to accomodate). So, fenders are good tonally? What about the Rumbles or Bassmans? I heard they're beginner amps but are they versatile and good tonewise? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Tone is in your touch bro. I get decent tone from any Peavey I plug into. Hell, I got nice tone with an Essex P pugged into a Peavey Microbass just the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Picker This statement makes no logical sense to me. J pickups hum. They are wired so that they are out of phase with each other. Turn them to the same volume, and they are hum-cancelling. With only one J, it can't be done because the P is already humbucking, and even if you wire the J out of phase with one half, its in phase with the other half and still buzzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zebra Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Picker This statement makes no logical sense to me. What sunburst said. The second sentance wasn't phrased that well, but it isn't illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 11, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by T. Alan Smith Tone is in your touch bro. I get decent tone from any Peavey I plug into. Hell, I got nice tone with an Essex P pugged into a Peavey Microbass just the other day. Well, that's true, but I'm not gonna have a good touch just yet, since this is gonna be my first bass .. so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 You can always make your own amp out of garbage can lids. Do a search for the wiring diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratrobot Posted August 11, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Perfessor You can always make your own amp out of garbage can lids. Do a search for the wiring diagram. I'm not good at making things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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