Members sunburstbasser Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by Ender_rpm I like my G&L. Haven't been too impressed with the MIAs I've played, but the MIMs are a pretty good value for the money, especially the "higher end" ones (Geddy Lee, Active Deluxe, Aerodyne). Play what you like, and don;t worry so much. Geddy Lee is MIJ. I don't see what the big deal is about MIA Fenders, when for a little more I can get a Lakland Skyline. I've played maybe 8 MIA Fenders, of varying kinds, compared to one Skyline Joe Osbourn. The Skyline felt and sounded better than any of those Fenders did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ARES Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by el_duderino676 The difference between Yamaha and Fender is that Yamahas actually sound and play good. Fenders don't. sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 http://users3.ev1.net/~woodd/huntfordeliverance.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by lug http://users3.ev1.net/~woodd/huntfordeliverance.mp3 damnit, I already have that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser Geddy Lee is MIJ.I don't see what the big deal is about MIA Fenders, when for a little more I can get a Lakland Skyline. I've played maybe 8 MIA Fenders, of varying kinds, compared to one Skyline Joe Osbourn. The Skyline felt and sounded better than any of those Fenders did. +10,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixgun77 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Ya know, Yamahas aren't bad. The feel is ok, and the tone is decent. I spent 4 hours in Mars Music before GC killed them playing every single fretless they had. This ranged from Yammy's for less than 200$ to Warwicks, Cort, Pedulla, G&L, Fenders, and a Carvin IIRC. I went with the 170$ Yammy P-Bass knockoff. I had 500$ for a bass. I liked the sound of that Yamaha better than everything they had in there with the exception of the fretless Fender P. I didn't have 800, so Yammy it was. It didn't have that good ol' fender shape to the neck, or quite the right midrange sound, but was very nice for the price. Still, IMO(there's that "subjective" bit again ) nothing sounds as good as a fretless P series(be it fender or squire) with the right EMG in it. I've owned about half a dozen basses and I keep going back to big speakers and a fretless squire with an EMG. This is for everything from Ska to bluegrass, to metal to oldies or ethnic music. Fender does make several non P or J basses, but nobody I know of buys them because you buy a Fender for a P or J tone. Maybe style is the main factor. Most people I talk to who don't like Fender are people who play through 10's and usually either do nothing but "lead bass" or double the guitar's power chords. They invariably dump all the mids or dump the lows and jack the treble. Most people I know who like fender could give a rats ass about anything other than keeping in with the drums and staying in key. They keep the mids in and don't usually dial up any clanky highs. Hell, Fender was good enough for Jaco! Ever heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival? AFAIK most of their bass recordings were done with a Fender P through a Kustom 2-15. OK, that's all I can think of for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L. Ron Hoover Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser Geddy Lee is MIJ. I don't see what the big deal is about MIA Fenders, when for a little more I can get a Lakland Skyline. I've played maybe 8 MIA Fenders, of varying kinds, compared to one Skyline Joe Osbourn. The Skyline felt and sounded better than any of those Fenders did. Haven't picked up a Skyline JO or DJ yet that I felt was even close to my Jazz bass. Not that the Skylines are bad, far from it, but for me, they're missing something. I really dig the 55-02, however, but it's not trying to be a Jazz bass.... But, of course, it's all incredibly subjective, a point that's lost on a lot of the posters in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J the D Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by L. Ron Hoover Haven't picked up a Skyline JO or DJ yet that I felt was even close to my Jazz bass. Not that the Skylines are bad, far from it, but for me, they're missing something. I really dig the 55-02, however, but it's not trying to be a Jazz bass.... But, of course, it's all incredibly subjective, a point that's lost on a lot of the posters in this thread. I've been looking at the Skyline 44-02 as a bass to go with my black MIM Jazz but, like you, like it because it plays different tones, especially that big humbucker sound. When the Skyline tries to sound like a Jazz, the Jazz beats it hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by el_duderino676 damnit, I already have that one. Sorry, I'm running out of ones I'm sure I made on the Pbass. .,,.er, I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fran da Man Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Well...to put a "real world" comment into this "Fender hate debate"... *If it wasn't for Fender, everyone else wouldn't have nothing to imitate* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members My bass in your face Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 EH! Stop taking this thread so serious! I'm laughing my ass off here, I almost can't breath... .........ehhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basshunter Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by My bass in your face Stop taking this thread so serious! I'm laughing my ass off here, I almost can't breath... Somebody took this thread seriously??? and just for you MBIYF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by basshunter Somebody took this thread seriously??? Yeah, er, Fenders suck a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by J the D I've been looking at the Skyline 44-02 as a bass to go with my black MIM Jazz but, like you, like it because it plays different tones, especially that big humbucker sound. When the Skyline tries to sound like a Jazz, the Jazz beats it hands down. Unless your talking a Skyline Darryl Jones or Joe Osbourn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassguy Posted August 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 i only made it cause someone was talking about it in another thread...never thought it would become this big...neways...yea fender sucks the big one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by bassguy i only made it cause someone was talking about it in another thread...never thought it would become this big...neways...yeafender sucks the big one... I'm just waiting for someone to get story going in this thread.... (I think I've just dated myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassguy Posted August 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 what story i dont remember the last i hate fender thread cause i was new when it was here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Worf101 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Who invented and patented (a copy of which is hanging on my office wall) the FIRST MASS PRODUCED COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE ELECTRIC BASS GUITAR IN HISTORY. For that little feat, Fender gets a pass from me for ever. So what they're stuck in a time warp, who cares there are thousands of technically superior basses out there (some of which I even own) the bottom line is we'd have nothing to play or talk about had they not put that single coil in a plank of wood. Da Worfster:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by bassguy what story i dont remember the last i hate fender thread cause i was new when it was here I was on another name at the time (even then, I'm newer than you but still remember the thread). One of the forumites had gotten a pretty good story going in there for a while. It was almost another Thread Killer in a sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by niomosy I was on another name at the time (even then, I'm newer than you but still remember the thread). One of the forumites had gotten a pretty good story going in there for a while. It was almost another Thread Killer in a sense The origninal "what do you hate about fender" predates threadkiller by a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tdempsey Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 that they don't make them like they used to. or, that I traded my P-Bass for a Strat (not Fender's fault, really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LeBraniac Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 they chop things up.....uh oh...wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 I've got nothing against Leo Fender. Hell of a genius if you ask me. He kept up, he improved his designs. Fender Corp. is the one stuck in a timewarp, and had little or nothing to do with the Precision bass circa 1951. Give me something to write about. I'm not on par with Mr. J as a story teller, but I can come up with SOMETHING. Just need an idea, thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixgun77 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser I've got nothing against Leo Fender. Hell of a genius if you ask me. He kept up, he improved his designs. Fender Corp. is the one stuck in a timewarp, and had little or nothing to do with the Precision bass circa 1951. Give me something to write about. I'm not on par with Mr. J as a story teller, but I can come up with SOMETHING. Just need an idea, thats all. Tell a story about how long winded I get when it comes to Fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members el_duderino676 Posted August 16, 2005 Members Share Posted August 16, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser I've got nothing against Leo Fender. Hell of a genius if you ask me. He kept up, he improved his designs. Fender Corp. is the one stuck in a timewarp, and had little or nothing to do with the Precision bass circa 1951. Give me something to write about. I'm not on par with Mr. J as a story teller, but I can come up with SOMETHING. Just need an idea, thats all. I'll agree that Leo Fender was a genius, I mean he did come up with the stingray, but the dumbest thing he ever did was sell Fender. If he had kept it things would be totally diferent now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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