Members Thunderbroom Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 I love this guy! "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have .... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." "When all government, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the Center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." "When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
Members s4001 Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson -- The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill, (1809)
Members Dragoon Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by ARES best. president. ever. No. That would be Lincoln.
Members burdizzos Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by Dragoon No. That would be Lincoln. oh crap, here we go again.
Members s4001 Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by Dragoon No. That would be Lincoln. I'm outta here.
Members beam Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 I'm an Alexander Hamilton fan, myself Though I gotta respect Jefferson, aside from what he did for this country, he broke a lot of ground as an Archaeologist.
Members Deep Bass Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by burdizzos oh crap, here we go again. Can't fairly compare. They had different current topics to deal with, and both dealt with them admirably. That's why there on our money!!
Members zachoff Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 I think we can all agree who's the worst president ever!
Members burdizzos Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 TJ got the state religion abolished in Virginia, that's cool.
Members beam Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by burdizzos TJ got the state religion abolished in Virginia, that's cool. He was a Unitarian, wasn't he?
Members burdizzos Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff I think we can all agree who's the worst president ever! That's a real toss-up. Lincoln, Wilson or FDR?
Members burdizzos Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by beam He was a Unitarian, wasn't he? He was born into an Episcopalian family, but later left organized religion. He identified with the Unitarians, but never joined their church formally. It's safe to call him a deist.
Members beam Posted August 17, 2005 Members Posted August 17, 2005 Originally posted by burdizzos He was born into an Episcopalian family, but later left organized religion. He identified with the Unitarians, but never joined their church formally.It's safe to call him a deist. Yea, there was no Virginian Unitarian church that he joined, as I remember. A free-thinking man of faith. can't go wrong with that.
Members Mudbass Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff I think we can all agree who's the worst president ever! Truman!
Members beam Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by Mudbass Truman! bah!
Members Thunderbroom Posted August 18, 2005 Author Members Posted August 18, 2005 What an insanely insightful and brilliant man!
Members Dragoon Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by burdizzos oh crap, here we go again. Sorry, don't want to start an argument. Didn't mean to present that as an opinion-as-fact, just an opinion. I know what sort of gripes people have with Lincoln's two terms (temporarily suspending writ of habeas corpus--if memory serves--etc.), but for {censored}'s sake, the guy held the Union together and was about as good a moral beacon type of leader as this nation's ever had. I don't think much if anything surpasses that. 'But he was a Republican!' He was FAR from the worst--are you kidding me?
Members burdizzos Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by beam Yea, there was no Virginian Unitarian church that he joined, as I remember.A free-thinking man of faith. can't go wrong with that. He was huge on religious freedom. The story on how he got around Patrick Henry to abolih the Virginia state religion is very interesting.
Members scarecrowbob Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 There is a dude that does this cool show on High Plains NPR called the Thomas Jefferson Hour. http://www.th-jefferson.org/ Basically, he is a historian who does an hour long show where he discusses topics in the character of Thomas Jefferson. If you ever have a chance to hear him speak, you should; it is quite interesting.
Members burdizzos Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by scarecrowbob There is a dude that does this cool show on High Plains NPR called the Thomas Jefferson Hour.http://www.th-jefferson.org/Basically, he is a historian who does an hour long show where he discusses topics in the character of Thomas Jefferson.If you ever have a chance to hear him speak, you should; it is quite interesting. Cool, I'll have to check that out. Hopefully this guy's better than the jackass who dresses up like George Washington and goes on and on about how this country was founded as a Christian nation.
Members scarecrowbob Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by burdizzos Cool, I'll have to check that out. Hopefully this guy's better than the jackass who dresses up like George Washington and goes on and on about how this country was founded as a Christian nation. Nah, it is more of a "I was really dissapointed that Mr. Lewis had never got arround to writing a sufficient account of their journey" kind of thing.
Members csm14 Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff I think we can all agree who's the worst president ever! William Henry Harrison!
Members sludgebass69 Posted August 18, 2005 Members Posted August 18, 2005 Interesting foot-note to history. Did you know that Thomas Jefferson and John Adams (2 of only 3 founding fathers left) both passed away on July 4th 1826 (the 50th anniversary of the signing)? edit: I know the 4th is at best debatable as the right date, but by 1826 it was already the celebrated day.
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