Members Apendecto Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 I've been messing with my P bass. Drilled a hole in it and moved the input jack Gibson style. This left me an extra hole in the pickguard where the jack used to be. So I thought I'd use the extra hole and buy a "Black Ice" passive distortion and hooked it to a third pot. Unfortunatly, I can't find any diagrams of how to wire a volume, tone, tone P bass since that would be crazy. The Black Ice works just like a cap for a tone control so I know how to integrate that into the circuit, but how do I add an extra pot into the usual P wiring? Any insight or pictures would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Members bassman1956 Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 I don't have an answer. But once you get that thing hooked up, I want a review!!!
Members beav2k2 Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/standard_pbass.html I beleive you'll just follow this, and then run a wire from the middle lug of the 1st tone pot to the second one. Someone will probally prove me wrong on this, though.
Members the_big_geez Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 It's gonna take me while to come up with a drawing, but what I'd suggest here is to use a push/pull pot with the Black Ice so you can switch it in and out of the circuit; sort of and active/passive motif. Beavs' post is a good start.
Members mrcrow Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by beav2k2 http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/standard_pbass.html I beleive you'll just follow this, and then run a wire from the middle lug of the 1st tone pot to the second one. Someone will probally prove me wrong on this, though. this diagram is ok except i use a 047 cap on my P tone pot...as supplied...but never use the tone so it doesnt matter in that respect for your icecap just add another pot similar to the tone and take a wire from the existing tone over to the other pot...this means the hot signal runs through the vol with the bleed to two tone pots...i assume you wont be using them both..together the push pull is another idea but i havent used one of these.. just a link over to the new pot is the simplest... and a earth from the pot...of course... ..try to daisy chain the earthing system to one pot and then to the jack..
Members bassman1956 Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 Found this while looking through my bookmarks. You could do an either-or-both switch with the tone caps and the diodes.
Members Apendecto Posted August 27, 2005 Author Members Posted August 27, 2005 I've got to run off to work in a minute but thanks for the info. I will definetly be using three pots. Volume, Tone, and Ice. I understand how to wire up a P but I can't figure out the extra tone pot (ice) in my head. Hmmm. I will check out the links when I get back. Thanks. Yo.
Members Apendecto Posted August 27, 2005 Author Members Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by beav2k2 http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/standard_pbass.htmlI beleive you'll just follow this, and then run a wire from the middle lug of the 1st tone pot to the second one. Someone will probally prove me wrong on this, though. A wire from the middle lug of the first tone pot to...what lug on the second tone pot? Thanks.
Members brake Posted August 27, 2005 Members Posted August 27, 2005 tie really heavy fishing wire around the headstock, tie the other end around a cinderblock...find a bridge...
Members beav2k2 Posted August 28, 2005 Members Posted August 28, 2005 Originally posted by Apendecto A wire from the middle lug of the first tone pot to...what lug on the second tone pot?Thanks. Middle
Members Apendecto Posted August 28, 2005 Author Members Posted August 28, 2005 What about this? Thanks for your help. Yo.
Members Apendecto Posted August 29, 2005 Author Members Posted August 29, 2005 So I wired it with the above picture, but my tone and Black Ice pots work backwards now? What the? Any ideas how to make them work correctly? Thanks.
Members mrcrow Posted August 29, 2005 Members Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by Apendecto So I wired it with the above picture, but my tone and Black Ice pots work backwards now? What the? Any ideas how to make them work correctly? Thanks. thats easy to do as some diagrams are looking on the pots and some looking under.... i think the current method is to look on the underside of the pot.. keep the feeds to the middle pins and just reverse the roles of the outers... one should be released from ground and one should be grounded... that may mean resoldering the cap and diode to the other pin ps just looked at that diagram.....wire the cap to the other outer pin...you dont need to disonnect it from the body of the pot as for the diode...i would say wire it similarly to the cap and put the hot lead from the pup...red...to the middle... that diagram may be looking on top of the pots in which case the vol is not right... just to recap... pun not intended looking at the pots from underside...the pin/tab numbers middle is 2 left is 1 right is 3 hot to 2 cap from 3 to ground ice from 3 to ground.... this way the tone will work to full on with anticlockwise rotation of the knob...and hopefully if i understand the ice...similarly and as for the vol...this can be wired either the hot to pin 2 and pin 1 to jack...pin 3 is always ground or pin 1 hot and pin 2 to jack...which is normal for a single pup P bass...and any other make for that matter...gives you a tighter vol control the optional way is for 2 pups etc and the vol is broader and covers more rotation to the 'off ' position... both work fine...but pin 3 is ground
Members Apendecto Posted August 29, 2005 Author Members Posted August 29, 2005 Cool. I drew that pic from the underside of the caps. The volume works correctly but the other two are screwy. I will try what you said and get back with you. Thanks. Yo.
Members Apendecto Posted August 29, 2005 Author Members Posted August 29, 2005 Thanks, it worked. Yo.
Members beav2k2 Posted August 30, 2005 Members Posted August 30, 2005 I demand a sound sample with, 1/2 and the black ice off!
Members bassman1956 Posted August 30, 2005 Members Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by beav2k2 I demand a sound sample with, 1/2 and the black ice off! Yes! This thread was just a tease!
Members Apendecto Posted August 30, 2005 Author Members Posted August 30, 2005 Sure is a tease... Lug said he'd put them up for me but I sent them to two addresses and didn't get them. Any ideas how to put music up on the internet for free? Thanks. PS The Ice hardly does anything on 1/2. All my clips (if you ever hear them) are full on then full off. Yo.
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