Members Apendecto Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 I bought a used American 92 Peavey Fury P bass copy for 25 bucks. It was beat up and had crappy pickups in it. After a set up and a Seymore Duncan Quarter Pounder P put in it sounds nice. But I wanted to change where the input jack went in becuase it seemed like too much stress on the pickguard. Now the jack is on the side, just like a Les Paul. So now that it's Gibson style I had an extra hole where the jack was so I decided to install a Black Ice passive distortion. I put three new 250 k pots in and new wiring. The SD Quarter Pounders are pretty hot and put out enough to drive the diode. I was surprised how the distortion sounded. I thought it would sound like {censored} but it drives the signal pretty well. There seems to be a slight volume drop probably due to some bass cutting out . With cheap distortion pedals I find this very annoying but it's not as bad as those and I can only really notice it when I recorded it. Your fingers really affect the distortion the most. These clips were played with my thumb resting on the P and plucking pretty hard. Playing on the neck produces less overdrive. All in all I am impressed. Although, I'd rather play through my Full Tone Bass driver, this thing is pretty solid. It also works for me since I can plug into one of my practice amps and not have to plug in a bunch of pedals to have distortion. The clips are through a Peavey Fury P copy with SD Quarter Pounders with the tone on full. When the Ice is on, it's on full too. I'm running it through a Mesa Boogie M Pulse 600. The eq and gain are flat, with a slight boos in the bass and a slight cut in the treble. Under the amp are SWR 4x10 and 1x18. One of the Goliaths speakers are miced with a SM 58 one inch off the center of the speaker. This goes into an Akai digital recorder with no alterations to the sound. The clips don't sound perfect but it was quick. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=398042 Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 29, 2005 Members Share Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by Apendecto I bought a used American 92 Peavey Fury P bass copy for 25 bucks. It was beat up and had crappy pickups in it. After a set up and a Seymore Duncan Quarter Pounder P put in it sounds nice. But I wanted to change where the input jack went in becuase it seemed like too much stress on the pickguard. So now that it's Gibson style I had an extra hole so I decided to install a Black Ice passive distortion. I put three new 250 k pots in and new wiring. The SD Quarter Pounders are pretty hot and put out enough to drive the diode. I was surprised how the distortion sounded. I thought it would sound like {censored} but it drives the signal pretty well. There seems to be a slight volume drop probably due to some bass cutting out . With cheap distortion pedals I find this very annoying but it's not as bad as those and I can only really notice it when I recorded it. Your fingers really affect the distortion the most. These clips were played with my thumb resting on the P and plucking pretty hard. Playing on the neck produces less overdrive. All in all I am impressed. Although, I'd rather play through my Full Tone Bass driver, this thing is pretty solid. It also works for me since I can plug into one of my practice amps and not have to plug in a bunch of pedals to have distortion. The clips are through a Peavey Fury P copy with SD Quarter Pounders with the tone on full. I'm running it through a Mesa Boogie M Pulse 600. The eq and gain are flat, with a slight boos in the bass and a slight cut in the treble. Under the amp are SWR 4x10 and 1x18. One of the Goliaths speakers are miced with a SM 58 one inch off the center of the speaker. This goes into an Akai digital recorder with no alterations to the sound. The clips don't sound perfect but it was quick. The clips comming are thanks to Lug. Yo. Better try the second addy, I'm not seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members bassman1956 Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by beam Yeah, buddy, we're dying here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members illidian Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Sounds like it turned out well for you. How does a passive distortion work? I'm curious as to how that would not introduce active circuitry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scarecrowbob Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by illidian Sounds like it turned out well for you.How does a passive distortion work? I'm curious as to how that would not introduce active circuitry. http://users.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/ampovdrv.htm Look in the section under clipping. [edit] those examples use the diodes in an opamp FB loop, but the principle is the same , IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members illidian Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by scarecrowbob http://users.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/ampovdrv.htmLook in the section under clipping.[edit] those examples use the diodes in an opamp FB loop, but the principle is the same , IIRC. So it just cuts down on the peaks, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by Apendecto Hmmm....I sent them all to Lug, at two addresses and he said he didn't get them.Anyone know how to put up music for free?Thanks. Still don't see it on either addy, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beam Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 You've PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 for fux sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Try this... I have more but I have to run. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=398042 Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by Apendecto Try this... I have more but I have to run. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=398042 Yo. I got: ****** Please be patient! This download hasn't been cleared yet. Please check back tomorrow. ****** Dude, I think there is a curse on your mp3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Lo-fi versions work in WindowsMediaPlayer. I like the sound. Will have to check back later and see if the hi-fi versions work. But is sounds like a nice touch of light distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 hey yeah cool m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beam Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 That sounds pretty cool actually, how do you control the difference between the clean and distorted tones? Is it all about how hard you play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scarecrowbob Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hey, check this out: http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/blackice.htm How much did the black ice thing cost? And how much are two diodes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikehorn Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by beam That sounds pretty cool actually, how do you control the difference between the clean and distorted tones?Is it all about how hard you play? since it's designed to replace the tone control cap, i think that makes the tone knob a "gain knob", if i remember the description from the Stew Mac catalog correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beam Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by bikehorn since it's designed to replace the tone control cap, i think that makes the tone knob a "gain knob", if i remember the description from the Stew Mac catalog correctly. Ahh ok, didn't realize it was connected to a knob. I thought it was just "on" hehe. That's pretty cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted August 31, 2005 Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 Thanks for the review. I always thought those were more targeted towards guitar, so it's cool that it sounds decent on bass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 31, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 I thought it was geared to guitar too, but I like how it sounds on bass. Beam, I wired it to a third pot where I can dial in as much distortion as I want. But it's pretty much none at all, a little or full on. It's only one diode and it was about 30 bucks. By the way, I'm throwing up another cilp for the hell of it. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted August 31, 2005 Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 When? Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 31, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 Done. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassguy Posted August 31, 2005 Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 that ratm mp3 makes me gass for a rondo p bass black with tort guard, and the black ice installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 31, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 Why not? Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 31, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2005 The hi fi clips work now at www.soundclick.com/apendecto Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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