Members Rachel Sampson Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I don't have TV, but I just heard that on a commercial (on network TV) regarding Katrina, Kanye West said "President Bush doesn't like black people" and then they cut him off. Anyone see this commercial? Anyone know how this has affected his career or what kind of repercussions it has had?I couldn't believe it. A famous musician hasn't done something this controversial since Sinead ripped up the picture of the pope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spinedriver Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I heard about that as well. Apparently it only aired on the east coast, because the network cut it from the west coast time delay feed. However his sentiments are being echoed ALL OVER the news networks. General concensus is that if it were middle class white people (Bush's demographic) were the ones trapped, they would have had started relief the next day. But since is was mostly poor black people (not generally considered Republican supporters) the Bush camp wasn't in too much of a hurry. The BIG thing is, if most of the US's millitary weren't in Iraq 'liberating' the people there from their homes, families, running water, electricity, etc.. there probably would have been money in the budget last year to make the necessary repairs on the levy that broke, and there would have been more National Guard forces to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I saw it on the news , it almost looked like to me he meant to elaborate a bit , but instead his statement came off short , even Mike Myers seemed a little surprised , sure he is not alone with his sentiments , I think it's irrelevant at the moment , they just need to get all those folks to safety and then have a full investigation to see what and who failed to do their job . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members s4001 Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by spinedriver The BIG thing is, if most of the US's millitary weren't in Iraq 'liberating' the people there from their homes, families, running water, electricity, etc.. there probably would have been money in the budget last year to make the necessary repairs on the levy that broke, and there would have been more National Guard forces to help out. the budget for the levees were roughly 40mil. doubling it would have been a drop in the drop. That money was gobbled up by some other state with a stronger lobby. (Don't look at us, CA got jack. Our representatives are not only corrupt, but can't even bring anything back from the pork barrel.) But why is all the criticism on Bush for it? I was under the impression that this was a Louisianna levee protecting New Orleans. Don't they have some responsibility? Long Beach maintains its own breakwaters and drainage and fisheries (ironically from oil taxes.) Why would it be Bush's responsibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 G. W. Bush is probably the least racist President that has ever been in office. Kanye West, on the other hand is an idiot without a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by lug G. W. Bush is probably the least racist President that has ever been in office. Kanye West, on the other hand is an idiot without a clue. First sentence: bull{censored}, absolute bull{censored}. Second sentence: truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by bholder First sentence: bull{censored}, absolute bull{censored}. Second sentence: truth. Why do you think he's racist? Because he doesn't support affirmative action based on race? Any other reason other than he's an "evil" republican? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rachel Sampson Posted September 4, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Peopel, people, the last thing I was trying to do was spark another debate about GWB. I wanted to know what kind of repercussions this has had on Kanye's career. Sinead was flamed and hated (by most) for what she did. Her career was all but ruined (at least for the top 40 in US). What's happening to Kanye? Will he get dropped from his label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members s4001 Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'm just hazzarding a guess, but I'll wager that he got hi-fives when he got back to the label's office. I doubt he'll be dropped. Now that NBC gave him all this name recognition, it'll be a boost to his carreer. No such thing as bad press, y'know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by Rachel Sampson Peopel, people, the last thing I was trying to do was spark another debate about GWB. I wanted to know what kind of repercussions this has had on Kanye's career. Sinead was flamed and hated (by most) for what she did. Her career was all but ruined (at least for the top 40 in US). What's happening to Kanye? Will he get dropped from his label? Well, for one, Bush is the one incorrectly being called a racist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rachel Sampson Posted September 4, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 found this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by Rachel Sampson found this ahh that explains the look . Well there is no harm in Sparking Someone's Ass , to Save those People !!!. And to answer your original question , I have not heard of him till now and pretty sure I'm gonna hear more . I would not really compare it to Sinead event though , as she managed to offend the entire world over night , I think banned from a few countries too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I caught this live. I had no idea who Kane West was. I thought it was someone of non-celebrity (perhapse an evacu-ee). His delivery was much less coherant than the transcript would suggest. Myers really looked like a deer in the headlights too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spinedriver Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 I can't see all that much coming from it, Jesse Jackson has been saying pretty much the same thing for days as well as others who are there. As for Bush being racist, I wouldn't say he is, but he's most DEFINATELY a classist (ie: a lot of his policies/ideals benifit the upper classes the most). I think my wife was pretty accurate in saying that the reason the gov't was so slow getting help to the evacuees wasn't the fact that they were black, it's because they're poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members c0kenp0pr0ckz Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 watch it for yourself...he sounds like an idiot because he didnt practice it beforehand (at least i hope not) you can hardly understand him and he can barely get a coherent sentence out.http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kanye.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rachel Sampson Posted September 4, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 Originally posted by c0kenp0pr0ckz watch it for yourself...he sounds like an idiot because he didnt practice it beforehand (at least i hope not) you can hardly understand him and he can barely get a coherent sentence out.http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kanye.html I'd be hella nervous too if I was going to pull something like that on live TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted September 4, 2005 Members Share Posted September 4, 2005 See, this is where fox news needs to take their cameras away from New Orleans to show all of the white folks who are homeless and not getting help in the rural areas. Lots of people aren't getting the help they need and it has NOTHING to do with race. I think it's great how the President of the US gets blame, but the Mayor of NO and the Governor of LA are blamed for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amishland Posted September 5, 2005 Members Share Posted September 5, 2005 Hmm, So, they build a city BELOW the level of two giant bodies of water, and hold it back with archaic engineering. Then everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xzachtgdx Posted September 5, 2005 Members Share Posted September 5, 2005 kenye west's career wont be affected negatively by anything he said/says because it will be echoed forever by sixteen year old girls that think he's cute. sinead o'conner had no sixteen year old girl that thinks she's cute fanbase. she was dead in the water. he could have at least made an intelligent stab at it, instead of lowering himself to another level. now his statement will just be picked apart by every politician and he will be degraded to nothing but a(nother) sub-intelligent black activist. at least he can still get laid by my girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LO_RYDER Posted September 12, 2005 Members Share Posted September 12, 2005 I saw this as it aired. Kanye went off the script from word one! Mike Meyers didn't know what to think and yes...they did cut kanye off! But, that doesn't change the fact that Kanye is right. When palm springs had their hurricane last year the national guard and red cross where already on standby 24 hours in advance. And that was only predicted to be a catogory 2 hurricane! So why in the world did it take 4 days "post" hurricane to get anyone on the scene for a predicted catogory 4-5???? Hmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the hammer Posted September 12, 2005 Members Share Posted September 12, 2005 lets see black rapper bashes Bush on live TV. OOh that must have taken guts:rolleyes: I haven't heard any other celebrity bash the president before:rolleyes: come on. R. Kelly {censored}s a 14 year old girl and then pees on her on tape and it did nothing to his career. You think the idiotic ramblings of this illiterate are going to affect his record sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted September 12, 2005 Members Share Posted September 12, 2005 Despite making a complete fool of himself and exposing his ignorance, I don't think Kanye West hurt his career in the least bit by that statement. By the way, I saw him do a live performance on a rerun of the Chapelle Show the other night. He can't rap or sing worth a darn either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Timmylikesthing Posted September 12, 2005 Members Share Posted September 12, 2005 Kanye's right. I mmbfgb k hate gkibfvc a Gha. But seriously, whether it's valid or not that wasn't the forum to raise that accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted September 12, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by LO_RYDER I saw this as it aired. Kanye went off the script from word one! Mike Meyers didn't know what to think and yes...they did cut kanye off! But, that doesn't change the fact that Kanye is right. When palm springs had their hurricane last year the national guard and red cross where already on standby 24 hours in advance. And that was only predicted to be a catogory 2 hurricane! So why in the world did it take 4 days "post" hurricane to get anyone on the scene for a predicted catogory 4-5???? Hmmmmmmmm Palm Springs?? Why don't you ask the governors of their respectve states? It's up to them, not the President, to mobilize their National Guard units. And the Red Cross is a non-profit organization, not a government agency, and doesn't answer to either the President or any state. It is also up to the governors to request assistance from any federal agencies. You could also ask Ray Nagin why he didn't order an evacuation until Sunday. Regarding delays, when did you start the clock? NOLA was not hit as hard as areas to the east such as Gulfport and Biloxi. It wasn't until Tuesday, when resources were primarily headed for those areas, that the levees failed in NOLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the hammer Posted September 12, 2005 Members Share Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by Craigv Palm Springs??Why don't you ask the governors of their respectve states? It's up to them, not the President, to mobilize their National Guard units. And the Red Cross is a non-profit organization, not a government agency, and doesn't answer to either the President or any state. It is also up to the governors to request assistance from any federal agencies.You could also ask Ray Nagin why he didn't order an evacuation until Sunday.Regarding delays, when did you start the clock? NOLA was not hit as hard as areas to the east such as Gulfport and Biloxi. It wasn't until Tuesday, when resources were primarily headed for those areas, that the levees failed in NOLA. don't go confusing people with the facts craig. Everyone knows that when the {censored} hits the fan the Prez and Team America all jump into action. Forget about all of that responsiblity of the state government:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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