Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 Can a P/J bass sound anything like a J bass?
Members SpaceGhost Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 A P can't really sound like a J and a J can't really sound like a P. A PJ can definitely get you a P sound but nothing really like a J. I prefer, on a jazz bass, a little more bridge pickup but love the neck pickup to give it more roundness. This is all besides the point though, you should just get a Ric.
Members bholder Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 How about a JPJ? Now, for the Ric thing, you could build a frankenRic that was pure ric on one neck and a JPJ on the other - but who'd do that to a ric? (Well, I might, if I could find a cheap one on eBay that'd been trashed but was still functional)
Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by SpaceGhost A P can't really sound like a J and a J can't really sound like a P. A PJ can definitely get you a P sound but nothing really like a J. I prefer, on a jazz bass, a little more bridge pickup but love the neck pickup to give it more roundness. This is all besides the point though, you should just get a Ric. I would if I could buddy:( . I currently have a Short scale P, I really like the P thump, but down the road I may start missing that little extra something that the J pup provides.
Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by bholder How about a JPJ? Now, for the Ric thing, you could build a frankenRic that was pure ric on one neck and a JPJ on the other - but who'd do that to a ric? (Well, I might, if I could find a cheap one on eBay that'd been trashed but was still functional) Like the Stu Hamm urge bass? That would be killer. I had actually thought about using all 3 pups on my old T40/T45 to build a tri humbucker bass, but they told me that the magnetic pull might be too strong.
Members bholder Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 ok, so let's work on the doubleneck. Have access to woodworking tools? Make your own body to fit, mount both your J and P necks and pickups on it.
Members SpaceGhost Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by hobobot009 I would if I could buddy:( . I currently have a Short scale P, I really like the P thump, but down the road I may start missing that little extra something that the J pup provides. Are you in good health? I think you could sell off a kidney and pay for your Ric. The hospital bill might be expensive though... I think you could get a good deal by finding somebody who works in alley ways but you would have to fight the blinding pain or maybe infection and death. Try some PJ's out since I think you might like the tone because you definitely have your P tone but your J tone will be very midrangey trebly (Jaco tone) but everything on 10 should sound nice. You best bet is to try some out.
Members zachoff Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 Not really... A P/J sounds more like a P and not much like a J at all.
Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by bholder ok, so let's work on the doubleneck. Have access to woodworking tools? Make your own body to fit, mount both your J and P necks and pickups on it. JAJAJA I bought a short scale cause I was having problems weilding a full scale. I can't even picture myself playing a double neck, I'll look like a fairy playing a harp:D .
Members bnyswonger Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff Not really... A P/J sounds more like a P and not much like a J at all. Thank God. In a nutshell, a P/J sounds like a P with some bite. On my fretless, I sometimes swing it over to just the J pickup if want a snarly Jaco-esque mid tone. It works fine for that. Otherwise I'm mostly on the P with a lttle bridge PU dialed in for increased definition.
Members mrcrow Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 i would suggest a P/P or a J/J JPJ is john paul jones...and he uses all sorts of wierd basses... the J/J must be the definitive jazz tone producing combination which doesnt come off with a P/J imho.. if you want a P sound leave it at that.. the next stage of course is to get those J pups together in some sympathetic tonal spot...as the MM stingray...and add a P pup and you have a P...and a Jazz nearness... it would be possible to construct a humbucker mounted at the P position and use only one coil in the neck J position... switching to series wiring and killing two string sets of polepieces would give near to a P...which is two condensed jazz pups wound into a two string pup configuration...a bit wider of course than the jazz but similar in resistance.. it would mean two coils per jazz pup and double switching...to kill each coil for the P configuration..
Members beav2k2 Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 My Jazz bass with a series/parallel switch comes remarkably close to a P sound. If you heard it on record, you'd never know the difference.
Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by mrcrow i would suggest a P/P or a J/J JPJ is john paul jones...and he uses all sorts of wierd basses... the J/J must be the definitive jazz tone producing combination which doesnt come off with a P/J imho.. if you want a P sound leave it at that.. the next stage of course is to get those J pups together in some sympathetic tonal spot...as the MM stingray...and add a P pup and you have a P...and a Jazz nearness... it would be possible to construct a humbucker mounted at the P position and use only one coil in the neck J position... switching to series wiring and killing two string sets of polepieces would give near to a P...which is two condensed jazz pups wound into a two string pup configuration...a bit wider of course than the jazz but similar in resistance.. it would mean two coils per jazz pup and double switching...to kill each coil for the P configuration.. :confused: :confuse: There is a JPJ bass and I don't mean John Paul Jones bass Man I'm thinking I should have gotten a J and created a series/parallel mod for it.
Members sunburstbasser Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 If you want a P tone, get a P. If you want a J tone, get a J. If you can't decide, a P/J isn't gonna do it for you. A J/P/J or P/J/J won't either, actually. Depending on the pickups you use, installing a series/parallel switch on a Jazz can get you close to P thump, can be more like a Stingray, or be far more aggressive than either of those. It may or may not work, and it will never truly mimic another the sound of a single P pickup.
Members hobobot009 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser If you want a P tone, get a P. If you want a J tone, get a J. If you can't decide, a P/J isn't gonna do it for you. A J/P/J or P/J/J won't either, actually. Depending on the pickups you use, installing a series/parallel switch on a Jazz can get you close to P thump, can be more like a Stingray, or be far more aggressive than either of those. It may or may not work, and it will never truly mimic another the sound of a single P pickup. Isn't the Billy Cox bass out of production? I didn't even know of any places that carried it.
Members sunburstbasser Posted September 12, 2005 Members Posted September 12, 2005 Originally posted by hobobot009 Isn't the Billy Cox bass out of production? I didn't even know of any places that carried it. It is, but that doesn't mean the supplies have dried up. If you wanna try one your Cort dealer may be able to get one. But really you need to decide whats most important to you, soundwise, and just get that kind of bass.
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