Members zachoff Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 If that song came out tomorrow, it would still be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rx jr. Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 i dunno, the grunge/seattle sound thing calmed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff If that song came out tomorrow, it would still be huge. only if Britney sang it. .......runs like hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members januaryscar Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 It would be tagged 'emo' and put in the same section as The Used, My Chemical Romance, etc etc etc. and be underappreciated thanks to the stupid emo tag. Kids with black t shirts and dyed fringes would dig it, not the same wider audience it had in the early 90s. Plus, its not 'pop' enough to be top 40 anymore. Pop punk bands have taken this mantle, ie Green Day, Simple Plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by lug only if Britney sang it........runs like hell You know, I take this back. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was very counter-culture in it's time. Basically it when against the grain and was revolutionary, containing true angst. By today's standards, Ashley Simpson, not Britney Spears, would have to perform it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted September 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I'm watching the DVD from With the Lights Out. While I am a huge Nirvana fan... I really do think Smells Like Teen Spirit would be just as successful today as it was in 1991... Admittedly, I listen to radio rock about half the time I listen to music & think it still sounds more fresh and new than anything on the radio right now... It just does. Emo? Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members januaryscar Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff Emo? Heh. dude i am a big nirvana fan too. But I would hate for them to have existed now. Their songs would have been homogenized by A & R ass whipes from geffen, and not been as raw and pure as they are. Nirvana is an example of a band who landed in the right place at the right time. They paved the way for the popular bands of today by bringing raw, guitar driven punk rock back into the mainstream. They also paved the way for the britneys indirectly, once the whole grunge thing got tired the mainstream needed something new to feed off, and britney was there at the right place and right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted September 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by januaryscar Their songs would have been homogenized by A & R ass whipes from geffen, and not been as raw and pure as they are. That wasn't my point... As was, Smells Like Teen Spirit would have been just as huge as it was 14 years ago if it were released tomorrow... I think. Unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeonVomit Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff That wasn't my point... As was, Smells Like Teen Spirit would have been just as huge as it was 14 years ago if it were released tomorrow... I think. Unchanged. But it would suddenly have to be 'coo'l to be a grunge rocker, and its definately not seen as 'cool' these days by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oddsock Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 IMO that song is pure pop, but I don't think that's a bad thing really. It's tough to say whether it would be big if it came out now. It was so influential when it did come out that the whole music culture reflects it somewhat. Given that, it might sound kind of redundant now. Compare it to the movie 2001. Hugely influential in scifi/space movies. Tons of stuff afterwards drew from it. If you send a kid to see it now he's not likely to be impressed by it. It's nothing new or original to him, he's seen all the knockoffs already, and they had better effects. He'd have to be able to enjoy it for what it is, for depth rather than surface. Same for Smells Like Teen Spirit. It would be appreciated by a lot of people, but not huge in the mainstream crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 where are they now ? http://www.weht.net/WEHT/The_bass_player_from_Nirvana.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beav2k2 Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 IMO, that song marked the death of talent in music in the last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i_wanna_les_paul Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Well, I for one agree with you. I think that if it was played on radio today for the first time, there would be a lot of people turning their heads. Oh, and I think "EMO" is a crap, blanket term that gets used too much by losers. But that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 So, as some people know I was a member of guitarwar.com for quite a while. Recently they added a vocal section to the website and before my membership closed I was checking it out and I downloaded this song: Smells Like Teen Spirit I love this girls voice. Shes like 17 and she'd never done and vocal stuff before but decided to give it a shot and personally I think she did a fantastic job and I loved it. I could fall in love with a voice like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4string Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by Dark Slide So, as some people know I was a member of guitarwar.com for quite a while. Recently they added a vocal section to the website and before my membership closed I was checking it out and I downloaded this song:Smells Like Teen SpiritI love this girls voice. Shes like 17 and she'd never done and vocal stuff before but decided to give it a shot and personally I think she did a fantastic job and I loved it. I could fall in love with a voice like that. If it had a little more jazzier sound Norah Jones could sing it. That wasn't that bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mounds Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I still hate it. I'd rather listen to Alice in Chains or Soundgarden, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff Heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" again...If that song came out tomorrow, it would still be huge. Listen to it back-to-back with "More than a Feeling" by Boston. Then tell me what you think Emre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted September 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by LanEvo Listen to it back-to-back with "More than a Feeling" by Boston. Then tell me what you think Emre More Than a Feeling is a crappy song made by a crappy band. It's amazing how everyone bags on Cobain for not being a great guitarist and at the same time calls Boston a great band full of great musicians. Still, Smells Like Teen Spirit is a {censored}load better than the crappy arena pop rock dribble that is More Than a Feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by beav2k2 IMO, that song marked the death of talent in music in the last 10 years I just see Nirvana as a very lucky band that happened to be at the right place at the right time. They came along just as the gliz and glamour of the 1980's rock scene was dying and they just rode the publicity wave. They took the sounds and attitude of some REAL innovators throughout the 1980s (like the Germs, Big Black, Fugazi, the Pixies, the Minutemen, Sonic Youth, the Violent Femmes, etc., etc., etc.) and just watered them down to make radio-friendly pop rock tunes. To me, Nirvana is to punk rock what No Doubt is to ska. Emre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff More Than a Feeling is a crappy song made by a crappy band. It's amazing how everyone bags on Cobain for not being a great guitarist and at the same time calls Boston a great band full of great musicians. Still, Smells Like Teen Spirit is a {censored}load better than the crappy arena pop rock dribble that is More Than a Feeling. I don't think you got my point. I hate Boston with a burning passion. They are the absolute essence of everything that's wrong with commercial music. But the song structure and literally everything about "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is lifted (almost chord-for-chord) directly from "More than a Feeling." Listen to them back-to-back and you will be amazed. BTW, Kurt Cobain himself admitted this when interviewed by Spin Magazine (I used to have it at home). Emre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff ...It's amazing how everyone bags on Cobain for not being a great guitarist and at the same time calls Boston a great band full of great musicians.... But Boston was a band full of great musicians. Great musicians that unfortunately chose to make pompous ultra-homogeonized pop-rock, sure. They were still technically very proficient and very good at writing the product they chose to manufacture. Mostly a waste of talent, in my opinion, but ol' Tom could out-play Kurt any day. Kurt was far more original as a writer, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenshag Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 flame me for loving Boston's riffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted September 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by greenshag flame me for loving Boston's riffs... gay wad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by greenshag flame me for loving Boston's riffs... Originally posted by zachoff gay wad Not so fast. It sounds like YOU love some of Boston's riffs, too. Maybe you just didn't know it Emre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tenyearsgone Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by zachoff It's amazing how everyone bags on Cobain for not being a great guitarist and at the same time calls Boston a great band full of great musicians. Maybe because Boston WAS a band of skilled musicians? I don't know how old you are but in the 70's you COULD NOT be in a band unless you were very quite skilled at your instrument. Look at Jeff Beck's bassist on his early albums, the guy is INCREDIBLE. I'm not a Boston fan in the least or a Nirvana fan, but only in this day and age can you get away with writing patheticly easy riffs and have people like it. The riffs may be catchy, and that's what's grabbing the listeners, but the playing (and the band as a whole) lacks any kind of real talent, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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