Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 How close are they related to each other? Becuase in the movie The Blue's Brother's they had 50/50 funk and blue's threw out the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adrenochrome Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 I think that is very difficult to quantify Derek. I don't think that closely really. I think the blues has more in common musically with a lot of classic rock and early heavy metal. I know that both forms carry a certain amount of inherent perceived 'coolness', so perhaps they're close stylistically rather than musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by Adrenochrome I think that is very difficult to quantify Derek. I don't think that closely really. I think the blues has more in common musically with a lot of classic rock and early heavy metal. I know that both forms carry a certain amount of inherent perceived 'coolness', so perhaps they're close stylistically rather than musically. Adrenochrome you are right, I think I liek funk and the blue's equally well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Almost all forms of popular music today have roots in the blues. not Blues Brother type blues, but pre-1900 Black music that, for lack of a better term, I'll call the blues. The Blues is always evolving. Many of the early Motown recordings were very clearly blues-based. Eventually, the Motown sound came to be called soul. Guys like James Brown and Sly Stone took soul and made it even more groove based, basically opening the door for funk. George Clinton took it another step further in Parliament and Funkadelic and thats basically when funk really had its own sound. Musically, funk is pretty simple theoretically but complex rhythmically and based almost entirely on being a groove. A friend of mine once called funk a glorified rhythm section, which isn't far from the truth. If you head to www.wikipedia.com, you can read up about funk in a lot more depth, and also read up about soul, blues, and early rock and roll and rockabilly. All of htese styles came out of really old blues and share a few common elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassguy Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 blues is more associated with rnb than funk...funk is like jazz with a twist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Funk came directly from the RnB and soul of the late 50s and early 60s. Most of the early funk was very far removed from jazz. Even the more modern jazz-funk stylings still have blues connections, as jazz came out of the blues as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I stink at bass Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by Adrenochrome I think that is very difficult to quantify Derek. I don't think that closely really. I think the blues has more in common musically with a lot of classic rock and early heavy metal. I know that both forms carry a certain amount of inherent perceived 'coolness', so perhaps they're close stylistically rather than musically. I agree, because "Eminence Front" by The Who is a Rock song, but it's one of the funkiest jams ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Thanks gujy's. In the movie Under cover brother is that funk/jazz? Becuase I liekd that sound along with a game called interstate76. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 For the funky side of jazz, pick up a copy of Weather Report's album Heavy Weather. This is a must for musicians of any instrument. I don't know about that movie. Do you have a link to the soundtrack, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 I didn't hear a hint of funk in the Blues Brothers movie.A lot of blues, some gospel, r'nb, soul music, no funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser For the funky side of jazz, pick up a copy of Weather Report's album Heavy Weather. This is a must for musicians of any instrument.I don't know about that movie. Do you have a link to the soundtrack, maybe? I cannot find it, But it does have Eddie griffin staring and Dave chapple. Btw another example of the music I want to play is the music from the comerical ( Bacardi and cola one's ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by Jazz Ad I didn't hear a hint of funk in the Blues Brothers movie.A lot of blues, some gospel, r'nb, soul music, no funk. Mybe I was rong Oh well I am only human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Which song were you thinking about ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by Jazz Ad Which song were you thinking about ? The one where jame's brown is singing at church and jake got hit by the power of god scene. An what style is Minne the moocher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members __tony__renaud Posted October 23, 2005 Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 The James Brown feature in the Blues Brothers is straight-up Southern Baptist gospel music. Material like that is still performed in churches today, even though the more contemporary sounding worship music seems to be more popular. Minnie the Moocher is generally considered a big band Jazz number. To be more specific, I've heard Dan Akroyd refer to it as a "Jump Blues" tune. He's also referred to the Max Weinberg 7 -Conan O'Brien's house band - as a Jump Blues band as well, and I've heard them play "MTM" now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted October 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2005 Originally posted by __tony__renaud The James Brown feature in the Blues Brothers is straight-up Southern Baptist gospel music. Material like that is still performed in churches today, even though the more contemporary sounding worship music seems to be more popular.Minnie the Moocher is generally considered a big band Jazz number. To be more specific, I've heard Dan Akroyd refer to it as a "Jump Blues" tune. He's also referred to the Max Weinberg 7 -Conan O'Brien's house band - as a Jump Blues band as well, and I've heard them play "MTM" now and then. Nice and thank you for the FYI, Yeah I should brush up on my music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tlaloc Posted October 24, 2005 Members Share Posted October 24, 2005 Funk just scares me to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members der oxenrig Posted October 24, 2005 Members Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by I stink at bass I agree, because "Eminence Front" by The Who is a Rock song, but it's one of the funkiest jams ever. One Who song I can't stand. I guess I just don't like Funk. P.S. where've you been Stinky?!? We've missed you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted October 24, 2005 Members Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by sunburstbasser For the funky side of jazz, pick up a copy of Weather Report's album Heavy Weather. +1 The Brecker Bros Anthology is another great place to look for funky jazz (as opposed to jazzy funk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 24, 2005 Members Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by I stink at bass I agree, because "Eminence Front" by The Who is a Rock song, but it's one of the funkiest jams ever. What about Taxman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted October 24, 2005 Members Share Posted October 24, 2005 For a good mix of blues and funk, check out the 'Strong Persuader' disc by Robert Cray. Good guitar, good vocals, very good bass. Mmm...tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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