Members james on bass Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/02/lab.defense.ap/index.html
Members B-Bottom Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Holy Carp!!!! I love this line "What we want to do is equip our protective force with the capability that will leave no doubt about the outcome," said Linton Brooks, head of the National Nuclear Security Administration.
Members Thumper Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 I see the guard still has an M-4 carbine and a automatic pistol for back-up...
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 "The Dillon Aero M134D electrically-powered gatling gun. For when you absolutely have to clean every last mf'er out of the room...." Oh well- it's our government just trying to protect us. Remember- they know better than us poor peons. So what if they wipe out a few of us in the commission of their duties? "After all, if you can't trust your own government, whom can you trust?"- YAHOO SERIOUS, "Young Einstein" (!989) "You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."- Lenin, on the civilian casualties of the Russian Revolution
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by Thumper I see the guard still has an M-4 carbine and a automatic pistol for back-up... Our police are looking more like an army every day. The black BDUs really get to a lot of people around here. At a town meeting in the neighboring town, an elderly man, survivor of Treblinka, got up and told the police chief- "Your men look like the ones who put me in the concentration camp! Why do you dress like Nazi storm troopers?" The PD ditched the BDUs and went back to dress blues the next day.
Members B-Bottom Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by 95thfoot "The Dillon Aero M134D electrically-powered gatling gun. For when you absolutely have to clean every last mf'er out of the room...." Oh well- it's our government just trying to protect us. Remember- they know better than us poor peons. So what if they wipe out a few of us in the commission of their duties? "After all, if you can't trust your own government, whom can you trust?"- YAHOO SERIOUS, "Young Einstein" (!989) "You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."- Lenin, on the civilian casualties of the Russian Revolution And if something did happen the government would catch all kinds of hell for not doing enough.
Members B-Bottom Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by 95thfoot Our police are looking more like an army every day. The black BDUs really get to a lot of people around here. At a town meeting in the neighboring town, an elderly man, survivor of Treblinka, got up and told the police chief- "Your men look like the ones who put me in the concentration camp! Why do you dress like Nazi storm troopers?" The PD ditched the BDUs and went back to dress blues the next day. I'm sure that's because the criminals out gun the police. Hell i'd be dressing like I was in the army as well if i had to deal with that stuff. Maybe that old man will be more happy when the police are getting gun downed. i guess as long as he feels good about himself that's all that matters
Members burdizzos Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Most security forces at nuclear sites are private firms who employ former marines, soldiers and special forces folks. They are more heavily armed than any police outfit and they do not mess around. Once upon a time, I was hired to do some contract work at a nuke power site. I drove out to the plant the night before to make sure that I knew how to get there. I turned down the public road that goes to the station and made a U-turn when I was about 400 yards from the gate since I knew I had the right place. Those crazy bastards in their humvees chased me down and with guns drawn demanded to know what I was doing. My guess is that they knew exactly what I was doing, but it was the middle of the night and they were bored. Either way, I had ten guys with M-4s surrounding my truck in a matter of seconds after turing around.
Members greenshag Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by burdizzos Most security forces at nuclear sites are private firms who employ former marines, soldiers and special forces folks. They are more heavily armed than any police outfit and they do not mess around.Once upon a time, I was hired to do some contract work at a nuke power site. I drove out to the plant the night before to make sure that I knew how to get there. I turned down the public road that goes to the station and made a U-turn when I was about 400 yards from the gate since I knew I had the right place. Those crazy bastards in their humvees chased me down and with guns drawn demanded to know what I was doing. My guess is that they knew exactly what I was doing, but it was the middle of the night and they were bored. Either way, I had ten guys with M-4s surrounding my truck in a matter of seconds after turing around. I am cool with this...
Members burdizzos Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by greenshag I am cool with this... Me too. The instant I saw two hummers coming up behind me in a hurry, I stopped, turned off my radio, turned off my headlights, turned on my dome light, rolled down my window and put both hands out the window. It's amazing how nice they are when you do all of that stuff.
Members greenshag Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by burdizzos Me too.The instant I saw two hummers coming up behind me in a hurry, I stopped, turned off my radio, turned off my headlights, turned on my dome light, rolled down my window and put both hands out the window.It's amazing how nice they are when you do all of that stuff. hehehe
Members bassesofalessergod Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by burdizzos Me too.The instant I saw two hummers coming up behind me in a hurry, I stopped, turned off my radio, turned off my headlights, turned on my dome light, rolled down my window and put both hands out the window.It's amazing how nice they are when you do all of that stuff. i did that when a cop pulled me over and he thought I was a criminal..... the fact that yr ma was going down on me at the same time didn't help my case.
Members BlackBelt Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 I got to shoot a GE Minigun a couple of years ago, just like the one pictured. It was a blast (literally). It has a changeable rate of fire-either 4000 or 6000 rounds per minute, and runs off of 2 - 12 volt batteries (24 volt system). The Dillon models are updated in that they don't spew unspent rounds downwards after you take your finger off of the electric trigger. There are something like 36 transferable Miniguns in civilian hands. If you are the kind of person that likes to shoot modern firearms, you should definitely get thyself to the Knob Creek KY machine gun shoot that happens twice a year and find someone with a Minigun there and beg them for some trigger time. (Doesn't hurt to offer to pay for the ammo).When you shoot one of these, it literally moves the earth.BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPP!!!!!
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by BlackBelt I got to shoot a GE Minigun a couple of years ago, just like the one pictured. It was a blast (literally). It has a changeable rate of fire-either 4000 or 6000 rounds per minute, and runs off of 2 - 12 volt batteries (24 volt system). The Dillon models are updated in that they don't spew unspent rounds downwards after you take your finger off of the electric trigger. There are something like 36 transferable Miniguns in civilian hands. If you are the kind of person that likes to shoot modern firearms, you should definitely get thyself to the Knob Creek KY machine gun shoot that happens twice a year and find someone with a Minigun there and beg them for some trigger time. (Doesn't hurt to offer to pay for the ammo). When you shoot one of these, it literally moves the earth. BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPP!!!!! Knob Creek- heck, I don't even have time to go to Camp Perry!
Members Bluescout Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by 95thfoot Knob Creek- heck, I don't even have time to go to Camp Perry! Ah, gotta love a fellow gun owner. Hey bud! On the black BDUs, the "swat' type team in our town wears them for effect. I helped with a school shooter drill and they were very intimidating.
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by Bluescout Ah, gotta love a fellow gun owner. Hey bud! Sssh! Don't tell anybody! I'm in enough trouble here for saying I like my Wishbasses..... And you live in the PRoMA, as do I! As for certain kinds of g--s, my motto is: "Get Both!". On the black BDUs, the "swat' type team in our town wears them for effect. I helped with a school shooter drill and they were very intimidating. Acc. to a Statie who's a member at the range I'm also member at, that's why they wear 'em. Oh, and they look "cleaner" longer .....
Members beam Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by greenshag I am cool with this... +1
Members BlackBelt Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 On the black BDUs, the "swat' type team in our town wears them for effect. I helped with a school shooter drill and they were very intimidating. ----------------------------I've got the funniest story about 'swat' type guys in black BDU's. The closest town to my lease land that I hunt on is so small that it only has one police officer. The town is really just an intersection with a stop sign, and 2 restaurants, and a gas station and grocery store. The police officer is an unpaid volunteer, who has to buy his own equipment. He also works at the bank 9 to 4 Mon-Fri as a teller, so there is no police dept. between those hours. Anyway, I went to the local restaurant one morning before hunting, and the 'officer' walks in for breakfast wearing his black BDU's, jack boots, bullet proof vest, HK 94 semi-auto carbine, Glock 21, and 2 stun/flash-bang grenades, and his Bolle' tactical goggles hanging off of his tactical vest. (Remember, this is a town made up of farmers...). He swaggers over and sits at the table next to me, and can barely get all his gear into the booth. That's when I notice it--he actually has an earpiece radio with boom mic attached on his head. And, uh, the body wire is just hanging loose.I asked him, "Hey, do you have a dispatcher?" He said, "Nah, I'm the only one. I get all my po-lice calls on my cell. People just call me directly." points to his cell. I noticed that the cell is NOT hooked up to his earpiece radio with boom mic. I asked him, "What kind of calls do you get out here?" He told me, "Couple of weeks ago a lady had her weed-whacker stolen out of her barn." He told me about working at the bank from 9-4, and I asked him what happens if someone calls during his workday, and he said he would have to go out to their place after work.I wanted to ask him what if someone robbed the bank, would he be a teller, or a police officer, but I figured he'd think I was being a smart ass, and I didn't want to get into it with a Barney Fife wannabe.Still, funniest thing I've seen.
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by BlackBelt I wanted to ask him what if someone robbed the bank, would he be a teller, or a police officer, but I figured he'd think I was being a smart ass, and I didn't want to get into it with a Barney Fife wannabe. Still, funniest thing I've seen. "I don't care who you are- that's funny!"
Members willsellout Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by Bluescout Ah, gotta love a fellow gun owner. Hey bud!On the black BDUs, the "swat' type team in our town wears them for effect. I helped with a school shooter drill and they were very intimidating. Thats why they wear em'! The Coast Guard just went to BDU's. Before we looked like gas station attendants, now we look like what we are. Police/military. As far as getting chased down by the Nuclear security, I would have a big problem. They have absolutely no jurisdiction outside their property. I would have gotton a lawyer. Dan
Members bholder Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 So, the spokesman for the folks that run Lawrence Livermore had this to say when questioned about "suicide terrorists": "Any terrorist that comes to one of our sites is a suicide terrorist, they just don't know it yet." The only thing that worries me about it is that that lab sits on a very small piece of land in the middle of a residential neighborhood. I wouldn't want to live across the street from them, personally (for quite a few reasons in addition to those guns, I know what they do in there).
Members burdizzos Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by bassesofalessergod i did that when a cop pulled me over and he thought I was a criminal..... the fact that yr ma was going down on me at the same time didn't help my case. I don't ever have to worry about that happening to me since a police escot is required for the type of vehicle needed to cart your mother's fat ass from point A to point Buffet.
Members 95thfoot Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by greenshag I am cool with this... Just pray nobody gets an itchy trigger finger. A kid in Pasadena, Maryland got mistakenly stopped while driving by some FBI types in black with M-4s in 2001. The kid, for reasons that are still unexplained, was shot point-blank in the face by an agent named Braga. The kid almost died, and spent years and many thousands of taxpayer $ getting his face rebuilt. His life is changed forever. The agent.......... got reassigned.. This is from memory. Google it.
Members burdizzos Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 The difference is that the nuclear station security folks are civilian contractors who cannot wave the immunity flag like the FBI can.
Members greenshag Posted February 3, 2006 Members Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by burdizzos The difference is that the nuclear station security folks are civilian contractors who cannot wave the immunity flag like the FBI can. which is why I was cool with it, as the difference (but does not make what happenend to the kid right) is that burdi was talking about a nuclear power plant, which is something I want to take security quite seriously for the obvious reasons.
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