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pedal for dirt/fuzz for bass played through a keyboard amp? [roland kc550]


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I am playing bass for a cover band through the keyboardist's roland kc 505 [i am pretty sure that is the model, it's 4 chanels and HUGE] and I was wondering if poeple coudl suggest an inexpensive gig worthy pedal that can give me some decent dirt or fuzz tone for the bass.

 

I tried a Dunlop Fuzz Face that my wife used to use when she played bass, but it didn't seem to like it as the pedal made some odd pops and fizzes when I was switching it on... so I disconnected it and just went without.

 

Since it is a keyboard amp, would some modeler thing be best? or is there a pedal that is not to expensive that someone could recommend?

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What's "not too expensive"? The Fulltone Bassdrive is held in pretty good regard around here. On the less expensive side, the SansAmp BDDI has some adherents as well, though some find the sound too sterile / brittle.

 

but would those sound good through the keyboard amp, or do i need somthing that has a modeler in it...? i don't think driving a keyboard amp would be best...

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I have no idea why you're hung on "modeling"... IMHO modeling is just a fancy word for "trying to sound like something else". I have the older version of that amp, the KC500, and it makes a pretty good small/medium bass amp IMHO. You have nothing special to worry about, just use any good bass distortion pedal with it.

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+1. I use a KC-500 @ home, and the Behringer sounds throughly decent.Very thumpy, and for $30, you can't go wrong. Eats batteries though.

 

I probably have an adapter that would work with it...

 

so If I got one of these behringer things... and I wanted to use the fuzz face [i remember it doing a nice "Tahitian Moon" bass sound by Porno for pyros] too, fuzz face before the behringer, right [because the behringer is basically an add-on preamp?]???

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Correct. The pedal will get decent OD sounds (Think "dope nose" by weezer), but if you really want that fuzz, run it in front of the pedal. and zero out the high control of the amp, or the tweeter will sound all fizzy.

I got the behringer today and I had a question.

 

The roland amp does not have individual high/low for each channel... so if I wanted to also run a fuzz face before the behringer, would I zero the highs on the behringer as I can't on the amp because the keyboard would lose out as well.

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I've had fantastic results using the SansAmp BDDI with a keyboard.

It's great to get dirty organ tones a la Deep Purple, analog feeling to pure digital patches or tubey overdrive.

I must have not communicated clearly, I am playing bass, but the keyboard player who's amp I am using would not appreciate me cutting all highs as Ender_rpm suggected since it is a master tone eq section :D

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Ha, yeah, if you're using the amp @ the same time, you're stuck with the global settings. If you need to cut highs, the fuzz face has a tone control, and the BDI 's prescence control is about where the buzz lives. I run a big muff in front of my BDI, but I use a dedicated amp/cab. Just try it out and see what happens. :)

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well I got the behringer and got to try it out on my "at home practice with my bass rig" which is the non-reverb/tremolo side of the acoustic 137 [1x15' combo, my main guitar amp]. The BDI21 seems to dull-down the sound and add a eq section.

I also tried it with my own keyboard amp, the roland kc100. pretty much the same result but the roland seemed to get all driven weird by teh behringer. I imagien that is from lack of speaker size/headroom. So, I'll have to wait until next week to try it on the big keyboard amp at practice.

 

So far, I don't know if it will stay on all the time like I thought it would to get a better "bass" tone because when it is off, teh bass still soudn sdeep, just a little brighter which might be decent for the band's group sound. Using it as a light dirt/driver pedal might be an option because even with it, the fuzz face hated the little roland.

 

 

One side question, the kc100 roland seems to "buzz" whenever I hit a G or 1/2 step off a G in either direction... is that possibly the resonant "note" of the cab and it is buzzing because a screw is too loose? it is weird.

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The BDI21 seems to dull-down the sound and add a eq section.


One side question, the kc100 roland seems to "buzz" whenever I hit a G or 1/2 step off a G in either direction... is that possibly the resonant "note" of the cab and it is buzzing because a screw is too loose? it is weird.

 

Yeah, the BDI gives a thumpy, warm sound. you can get a brighter sound by bumping up the prescence, but then you add hiss. It sup[possed to sound like that :) The resonant note thing: Its possible. Try it with a keyboard and see if it still does it. Check out your speaker mounting screws, etc.

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