Members burdizzos Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 Say I wanted to create some drum loops for working on new songs what's a good program that will do it for me? I'd like a good sized library or different types of drums. I'd also like it to be fairly user friendly. I'm running a PC with XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 I use Fruity Loops with the Drumkit from Hell drum samples, which sound good. I'm too stupid to use MIDI stuff and softsamplers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 How aboutdrumsondemand.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hi.flyer Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 Use hardware instead for the true mojo factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 How aboutdrumsondemand.com? this is what I got, but I haven't had time to mess with it yet. It's a collection of samples, and you need some other sequencing program, like "reason", to make complete beats from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 I use Fruity Loops with the Drumkit from Hell drum samples, which sound good.I'm too stupid to use MIDI stuff and softsamplers. I use that, too. Kicks ass and is very easy to use. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Rippin' Robin Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 I use that, too. Kicks ass and is very easy to use.Yo. I've used Amigas for years and this is the closest I got to the (Octa)Med simplicity I know and cherish from those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 I've used Amigas for years and this is the closest I got to the (Octa)Med simplicity I know and cherish from those days. I have no idea what that means.... What is this Drum from Hell samples you speak of? Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveyDevey Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 The good thing about FL is that it's easy. The bad thing is that the stock drum samples sound like ass. Pure, unadulterated ass. So, if you can get a new pack of samples you should be good to go. But I wouldn't expect to be able to get any use out of it without said pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted July 21, 2007 Author Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 So I need FL 7 and some kind of sample expansion pack. Anyone know what the difference is between the four different FL7 packages? Will the express version get me what I want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted July 21, 2007 Members Share Posted July 21, 2007 I'm not a fan of Fruity Loops.I use Hammerhead for simple patterns and electro. It's free and it sounds damn good.For other stuff, Acoustica Beatcraft has my preference. It's very easy to edit and tweak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 The good thing about FL is that it's easy. The bad thing is that the stock drum samples sound like ass. Pure, unadulterated ass. So, if you can get a new pack of samples you should be good to go. But I wouldn't expect to be able to get any use out of it without said pack. A lot of them do sound like {censored}. But depending on what you are going for (dance, techno, etc.) there are some really good sounds. I haven't found a snare, high hat opening, tambourine, or tuned toms I really like. Making a "rock" song is harder than a "dance" song with the packs SteveyDevey is talking about. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveyDevey Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 A lot of them do sound like {censored}. But depending on what you are going for (dance, techno, etc.) there are some really good sounds. I haven't found a snare, high hat opening, tambourine, or tuned toms I really like. Making a "rock" song is harder than a "dance" song with the packs SteveyDevey is talking about.Yo.One caveat: I haven't tried anything newer than FL5, so they may have greatly improved things by now. Even for dance though, I wouldn't use most of the drums. Some of the kicks are ok, but once you get to the higher end with things like the hats they all sound like {censored} to me. But again, that's not necessarily still true on the new versions. I'll have to check that out; I did notice the other day that they were up to version 7 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 One caveat: I haven't tried anything newer than FL5, so they may have greatly improved things by now. Even for dance though, I wouldn't use most of the drums. Some of the kicks are ok, but once you get to the higher end with things like the hats they all sound like {censored} to me. But again, that's not necessarily still true on the new versions. I'll have to check that out; I did notice the other day that they were up to version 7 now. I've got 5. I will agree with you, a lot of the samples sound like dog {censored} but I also like a handful of them. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveyDevey Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 I've got 5. I will agree with you, a lot of the samples sound like dog {censored} but I also like a handful of them. Yo. There are a few that I routinely use, but I always heavily effect them. (Though, I'd probably do that anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synonym Music Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 I use Fruity Loops with the Drumkit from Hell drum samples, which sound good.I'm too stupid to use MIDI stuff and softsamplers. Oh that is softsampling my friend. You're loading a sample into a software sampler and triggering it via MIDI. I'm sticking with ezDrummer for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 What is this Drum from Hell samples you speak of?Yo. It's a CD-ROM chock full with real drum samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 Loops:Beta Monkey has tons cheap , they are ok , better then a crappy drum machine . Drums on Demand are excellent , I get a lot of use out of them , you may find you want/need the entire collection , very simple , just drag and drop . These have different file types , so it depends on what recording software you use , and 16 or 24 bit . I also use EZ drummer but you need 1 gig of space to store it and about 1 gig per every expansion pack you buy .This is a virtual instrument , works as a plug-in. But I am really dig'n it these days , as simple as drag and drop and even easier to write in beats , adding hits or cymbals just by using the pen tool in the piano roll window, lots of fills and modern sounds . You will probably need the expansion packs also Drums on demand has "Downloadables" so go buy a couple "folders" of BPM for something like 5 or 6 bucks a shot , just get the correct file type . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lefty Geek Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 If someone is not using recording software, are there any other benefits about using a VST drum machine? I am thinking about using Beatcraft, but mainly because it is not a VST plugin and I do not have to shell out extra for Cubase, Pro Tools, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 It's a CD-ROM chock full with real drum samples. I will look for it, thanks. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synonym Music Posted July 22, 2007 Members Share Posted July 22, 2007 If someone is not using recording software, are there any other benefits about using a VST drum machine? I am thinking about using Beatcraft, but mainly because it is not a VST plugin and I do not have to shell out extra for Cubase, Pro Tools, etc... Eh........ Mainly quantization templates (I think you bassists call it "groove", whatever the hell that is ) from the MPCs, and well.... It's easier to build a beat on than playing a MIDI controller keyboard or clicking in events. Drummers will sometimes get an electric kit and use that for triggering. It can sound a lot more natural. Beatcraft has a decent sequencer but even with swing functions and 64th note quantization, it's still going to sound robotic. Cubase, Pro Tools etc. can usually go to a much higher magnification (upwards of 1024ths) and provide you with a less gridlike feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Another thing to ponder, ASIO drivers only allow one program at a time to access soundcard ressources.If you use a separate program for drums or soft synth, you won't be able to record or sequence it at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveyDevey Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Another thing to ponder, ASIO drivers only allow one program at a time to access soundcard ressources.If you use a separate program for drums or soft synth, you won't be able to record or sequence it at the same time. I could be wrong, but I'd bet using a DAW app like audition with rewire hooking your drum software would still let you use ASIO, just passing sound from the drum app to it. I'll have to try that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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