Members Super Bass Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 +1 thats pretty reasonable weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 I don't know where people are finding these "light" Mesas. I've lifted a few, and while they're no SVT, they're also no GK. Add in 10-15 pounds depending on your choice of rack case and it goes up from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Peavey may get luckier than Sadowsky who just stopped production on his all tube heads.It is a ridiculously small market. Most bass players don't want to be bothered with tubes and the rest don't have the money to afford them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 hmm...very tempting. I wonder will that amp make its way over to Europe It already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 It already has. linky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Peavey may get luckier than Sadowsky who just stopped production on his all tube heads.It is a ridiculously small market. Most bass players don't want to be bothered with tubes and the rest don't have the money to afford them. Well, they're in a whole different price range though. Ampeg hasn't had any problem selling tube heads. I think Yorkville/traynor has done pretty well too. The problem with the Sadowsky ones was the fact they were well over $2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoundandBlocked Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Everybody knows that tube watts are much louder than solid-state watts, and the 225-watt VB-2 takes full advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Why confused?Tube amps with a 225W rating will smoke a solid state amp with the same wattage rating. You can overdrive the tube amp and it will sound great, where if you OD a SS amp it will sound like crap.my Trace V4 was only 240W and was WAY louder than 800W SS amps I've owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Why confused?Tube amps with a 225W rating will smoke a solid state amp with the same wattage rating. You can overdrive the tube amp and it will sound great, where if you OD a SS amp it will sound like crap.my Trace V4 was only 240W and was WAY louder than 800W SS amps I've owned.Indeed. My V-Type (differently-badged V4) keeps up with two cranked half-stacks and a beast of a drummer, and I'm only running it at 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 A bassist I know has a JCM 800 Bass and its a monster at 100W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Indeed. My V-Type (differently-badged V4) keeps up with two cranked half-stacks and a beast of a drummer, and I'm only running it at 50%. yup. Great amps. BTW, I have all of the tech info and service manuals for those amps in PDF format if you want em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Why confused? Tube amps with a 225W rating will smoke a solid state amp with the same wattage rating. You can overdrive the tube amp and it will sound great, where if you OD a SS amp it will sound like crap. . Yes. But. If you overdrive the tube amp it will actually be putting out 225 watts or more. The 225 watt SS will probably never actually put out 225 watts.Bottom line: X watts at Y%THD is the same for both tube and SS. It's just that we don't want to hear a SS amp put out 30% THD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 yup. Great amps. BTW, I have all of the tech info and service manuals for those amps in PDF format if you want em.PM'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members illidian Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Seems like a nice amp, at a fair enough price. However, I see the price coming down within a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 PM'd.I'll do it when I get home. they are on my home computer. Schematics, Parts lists, everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'll do it when I get home. they are on my home computer. Schematics, Parts lists, everything. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeeTL Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 Seems like a nice amp, at a fair enough price. However, I see the price coming down within a year.The Sweetwater link shows 18% off MSRP. I'm used to seeing at least 30% off MSRP on major brands, so I expect true "retail" (MAP) price will come into line once production/distribution/supply ramps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chubrocker Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 I think the price is OK---about $100 more than I expected. Still, not a bad price for an all-tube bass amp. Bass amps are NOT the same as guitar amps---trannys are different, different EQ systems, etc. Apples and oranges in comparison. Also, as someone mentioned, tube bass amps are not THAT great of a seller. Supply vs. Demand will drive price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted August 7, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 The Sweetwater link shows 18% off MSRP. I'm used to seeing at least 30% off MSRP on major brands, so I expect true "retail" (MAP) price will come into line once production/distribution/supply ramps up. I noticed that too. Perhaps there is hope. The MSRP for the Peavey Pro Bass 500 is $1049, but it sells for $780 at MF. I got mine used for $475. I guess I'll be able to get a used VB-2 in a few years for what I'm willing to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 7, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'll bet they sell a few. I have yet to see one Traynor *anything* in this area up to NYC, but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an authorized Peavey dealer. So just by virtue of them putting units on store shelves they can make more sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BB5000 Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'm a huge fan of Hartley Peavey. I think it speaks volumes that a business as high tech as Sweetwater is now a BIG online dealer. Even more instructive that HP himself came to Sweetwater along with his reps to begin their training and welcome them as customers. Was a real hoot to see him on OCC unveiling and revving that bike at NAMM (where they get just silly about ANYTHING they think is too loud!). While an all tube amp is not for me, I would expect that these will do just fine. And if it's anything like most Peavey gear I've owned, while it may not be the living end tone-wise, I have NO doubt I could throw it down a flight of stairs and it would fire right up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted August 7, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 7, 2007 I don't know where people are finding these "light" Mesas. I've lifted a few, and while they're no SVT, they're also no GK.Add in 10-15 pounds depending on your choice of rack case and it goes up from there.Yep. Definitely not a boat anchor, but the 20 additional pounds when I'm lugging subs and other LS gear, too, is the deal breaker for me with the 400+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rikshaw Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 anyone know when these will be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted August 7, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 7, 2007 anyone know when these will be available?When they get delivered to the stores from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rikshaw Posted August 7, 2007 Members Share Posted August 7, 2007 When they get delivered to the stores from the factory. when is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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