Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 We're figuring out the details of what were doing with the upcoming CD. Do you think having the printed lyrics in with the CD is important? If so, how important? I'm the only one in the band who cares at all about lyrics, and I wrote almost all of them, so the decision is totally up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hi.flyer Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 It was a nice touch back in the day, but now you could just put them online. Go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 If you have a link to a lyrics page on your website, then that is more than sufficient. It doesn't seem worth the extra printing money to put all of the lyrics on the CD jacket. These days, all you really need is a cool cover graphic and band information on the inside. The internet is for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 It was a nice touch back in the day, but now you could just put them online. Go with that. yeah, I've thought of that too. I've not seen it done, but I rarely buy CD's anymore..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Bad Monkey Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 yeah, I've thought of that too. I've not seen it done, but I rarely buy CD's anymore..... How do you want to market your CD? Is this more for fans coming to your shows, or to hand out to managers/agents to get more bookings/exposure? Are you going to be putting a lot of songs online for download, or is the bulk of the album going to be exclusively on the CD? What's the price you're putting on the album? Those would be factors to consider when choosing how much you want to put on the CD jacket. Myself, in the rare time when I will buy an album, expect there to be some content on that jacket, otherwise why spend the extra money just for the CD when I can buy it online? If you went the no lyrics route, I'd have you opt for a digipack instead of standard jewel case, because that would fit content-wise, but also look cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bonoman Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Personally, I like having the having the lyrics included with the CD. I actually expect it as part of the package and get disappointed when they're not included. If I'm willing to shell out cash for something I can get online for free, I want a few extra bells and whistles to come with it, namely lyrics and liner-notes. Why should I have to search it all out on the internet if I just paid good money for it? Doesn't that earn me the right to be lazy? Also, if you're the writer, it'll be a good feeling for you to see them in print with trumped-up graphics around them. I say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chunky-b Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 It's seems more bands do it on the first or second album, but it fades out after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 How do you want to market your CD? Is this more for fans coming to your shows, or to hand out to managers/agents to get more bookings/exposure?Are you going to be putting a lot of songs online for download, or is the bulk of the album going to be exclusively on the CD? What's the price you're putting on the album? We'll the goal is to get signed. So, none of it will be online (all of our shows are there for free download though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dogman Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 If you can afford to do it, I see no problem going with them on the cd insert.It is more expensive though.I wish we could have done this with the Gabby Hayz cd we released earlier this year, but it was just cost prohibitive so I will hopefully get a website setup soon with a page devoted to the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Bands need to start publishing their basslines in the liner notes, cause {censored} the RIAA. I'm actually surprised the RIAA still allows bands to put lyrics in, but they probably haven't noticed with their noses in bellybuttons and balls on they chins. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Bands need to start publishing their basslines in the liner notes, cause {censored} the RIAA. I'm actually surprised the RIAA still allows bands to put lyrics in, but they probably haven't noticed with their noses in bellybuttons and balls on they chins. C7 Now you're thinking. That would be an awesome trend if bands would include chord progression and performance notes for their songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Now you're thinking. That would be an awesome trend if bands would include chord progression and performance notes for their songs. That's actually a pretty cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Now you're thinking. That would be an awesome trend if bands would include chord progression and performance notes for their songs. For major label artists, do you really think the record companies would allow then to do that, considering that they just sued to shut down all the tab sites? C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 For major label artists, do you really think the record companies would allow then to do that, considering that they just sued to shut down all the tab sites? C7 Absolutely not. But for a non-major label it would be a pretty bad ass statement that might get pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walkerci Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 I'd need a microscope to read the lyrics on a CD liner. They should be on the band's website, so we can print them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 That's actually a pretty cool idea. I agree! At one point, the White Stripes had tab/chord progressions on their website. I thought that was a really nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Onkel Bob Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Where's the Boalg option? Or the 'It's not really important to me but if they're there I'll read them.'? That's the one I'd go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 I agree!At one point, the White Stripes had tab/chord progressions on their website. I thought that was a really nice touch. the problem is we have WAY more music than we have lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 the problem is we have WAY more music than we have lyrics. So...put your chord charts online! Space is cheap online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Absolutely not. But for a non-major label it would be a pretty bad ass statement that might get pub. Right. Include instructions on how to play the songs, along with chorde charts, basslines, and drum tabs. And a picture of the band holding up a big "{censored} You, RIAA" sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted August 10, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 10, 2007 I voted "I read them and they should be in there" but let me qualify that one. If you have a Lyrics page on your website and the website is printed somewhere on the CD jacket/insert, then I'm OK with that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 And a picture of the band holding up a big "{censored} You, RIAA" sign. Catphish, are you still looking for a CD title? Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 I voted "I couldn't care less"..... Personally, thats me. I like writing lyrics but if they are printed, great, if not - so what. However, everybody is different and there a lot of songwriters that liken lyrics on a jacket to having a book published: that is what they may feel is one of their strongest contributions to the band and its sound. Also, when discussing this with musicians in a band that do not write, the non-writing ( usually non-singing as well) musicians tend to have a "vocalist/lyricist is a 'necessary inconvenience' " attitude. The truth is, there are a lot of music listeners/ your audience/your following that may buy your CD that are not musicians, and a lot of these people DO like having lyrics on the jacket... $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Bad Monkey Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 Now you're thinking. That would be an awesome trend if bands would include chord progression and performance notes for their songs. I have a Steve Swallow album called "Real Book," where all of his original tunes are all lead charts in the CD jacket. Nice cover too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted August 10, 2007 Members Share Posted August 10, 2007 I have a Steve Swallow album called "Real Book," where all of his original tunes are all lead charts in the CD jacket. Nice cover too. Im glad it DOESN'T happen more...that would just be more fuel for ASCAP and BMI agents to circle the country finding clubs to shut down....In my area, I certainly don't need that......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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