Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 Chikha ! Just got and installed my Badass II bridge for my F Jazz, jesus this thing has instantly improved the sound of my bass. Its quite scary in fact. It actually does what it says on the box, improves sustain, clarity and attack. nearly wet myself when i plugged it in. My only dislike is that the saddles cant go as low as a "vintage" F bridge, thus i will have to adjust my trussrod, or make a pocket (so to speak) for the base of the bridge in contact with the bass body - which would be insane. Does anyone know if you can make the grooves on the saddles so the strings would be stable, and slightly lower than normal ? I was just gonna get a file to it and start going at it, but i thought i'd pass it by the infinite wisdom of the HCBF posse - im electronically staring at you Kindness Cheeeers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 Chikha ! Just got and installed my Badass II bridge for my F Jazz, jesus this thing has instantly improved the sound of my bass. Its quite scary in fact. It actually does what it says on the box, improves sustain, clarity and attack. nearly wet myself when i plugged it in. My only dislike is that the saddles cant go as low as a "vintage" F bridge, thus i will have to adjust my trussrod, or make a pocket (so to speak) for the base of the bridge in contact with the bass body - which would be insane. Does anyone know if you can make the grooves on the saddles so the strings would be stable, and slightly lower than normal ? I was just gonna get a file to it and start going at it, but i thought i'd pass it by the infinite wisdom of the HCBF posse - im electronically staring at you Kindness Cheeeers! I've cut grooves very deep into the saddles on a BAI and it works fine. Just remember, you can cut deeper but you have to buy new saddles to "undo" the cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I've cut grooves very deep into the saddles on a BAI and it works fine. Just remember, you can cut deeper but you have to buy new saddles to "undo" the cuts. What, JB Weld won't fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 8, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2007 Does anyone know if you can make the grooves on the saddles so the strings would be stable, and slightly lower than normal ? Lug does. Take it slow with the file and just go deep enough to maintain the string in the slot. You don't need to groove saddles as deeply as you slot nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 cool!thanks guys. I've got the angle grinder on standby here. Actually kindness if you have any info on shimming it would be great, as i have to shim my P-bass from the 12th up, and probably the same on the Jazz.Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 8, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2007 I don't have time now or tonight, but if you send me a PM to remind me tomorrow, I will write something up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 Actually, a very deep "V" cut into the saddle give a deeper fundimental, higher highs and more mids along with extra clarity and more "thump". I catagorically stand by this and am completely unwiilling to do any type of double blind sound test. If you can't hear the difference, you are blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 woah ! i dont need it now its cool. you've helped alot already with your threads in the bass faq and here. i will however send u a reminder in a while, you'll make a lot more sense out of things than what i'll find on the net. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 Actually, a very deep "V" cut into the saddle give a deeper fundimental, higher highs and more mids along with extra clarity and more "thump". I catagorically stand by this and am completely unwiilling to do any type of double blind sound test. If you can't hear the difference, you are blind. I knew this was coming. Personally I changed the bridge of my Fender for a Gotoh 201 and couldn't tell the difference but it's definitely a better bridge. I didn't want tp file my own {censored} which is why I didn't go with the BAII. For a bridge that costs that much it should be good to go dontcha think? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I'm allowing my saddle grooves to develop on their own. I play somewhat aggressively at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I knew this was coming. Personally I changed the bridge of my Fender for a Gotoh 201 and couldn't tell the difference but it's definitely a better bridge. I didn't want tp file my own {censored} which is why I didn't go with the BAII. For a bridge that costs that much it should be good to go dontcha think? Dan The gotoh isn't even sealed oxygen free OR reverse wrapped with hydronigated exterier armor plating. What a POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulyWally Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I knew this was coming. Personally I changed the bridge of my Fender for a Gotoh 201 and couldn't tell the difference but it's definitely a better bridge. I didn't want tp file my own {censored} which is why I didn't go with the BAII. For a bridge that costs that much it should be good to go dontcha think?Dan I like that they sell it without grooves. A lot of cats like to tweak their string spacing. But at the same time, they should also sell one that is already grooved. I would buy a BA if I didn't have to groove it myself. And I don't want to pay someone another $10-$20 to groove one for me. They make nice bridges, but after that much hassle, I'll just buy from one of their competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hawkhuff Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I knew this was coming. Personally I changed the bridge of my Fender for a Gotoh 201 and couldn't tell the difference but it's definitely a better bridge. I didn't want tp file my own {censored} which is why I didn't go with the BAII. For a bridge that costs that much it should be good to go dontcha think?Dan IMO they normally are. However, if you want to lower the strings more but don't want to fool around with shims deepening the grooves is the way to go. I have three BA bridges and one I had no grooves and put non in them. The bass was fine and played fine. On another I filed them down slightly and it too is good and has great action. I really like the BA and I'll buy more in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 IMO they normally are. However, if you want to lower the strings more but don't want to fool around with shims deepening the grooves is the way to go. I have three BA bridges and one I had no grooves and put non in them. The bass was fine and played fine. On another I filed them down slightly and it too is good and has great action. I really like the BA and I'll buy more in the future. I like BA's and I can not lie You other bassists can't deny That when a bass walks wit' adjustable finger space an' A round tone in yo' face. You get SPRUNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hawkhuff Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I like BA's and I can not lie You other bassists can't deny That when a bass walks wit' big ass finger space an' A round tone in yo' face. You get SPRUNG! 4 BA's. That pic makes me sport a husky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no-logic Posted October 8, 2007 Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I like that they sell it without grooves. A lot of cats like to tweak their string spacing.But at the same time, they should also sell one that is already grooved.I would buy a BA if I didn't have to groove it myself. And I don't want to pay someone another $10-$20 to groove one for me.They make nice bridges, but after that much hassle, I'll just buy from one of their competitors. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 I just filed the grooves for me strings, perfect placement over each of the pickups and just enough of a groove to keep the strings in to the limits of my bashing. I may file them down more though, as my action is still a bit higher than i like. But i dont think i can avoid shimming (if it is what i think it is ... is it is if fe fi fo fum) Did the V groove as you suggested lug, worked a charm. Cheers! I knew this was coming. Personally I changed the bridge of my Fender for a Gotoh 201 and couldn't tell the difference but it's definitely a better bridge. I didn't want tp file my own {censored} which is why I didn't go with the BAII. For a bridge that costs that much it should be good to go dontcha think?Dan !! - I got the badass brand new off ebay (shop) for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 8, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2007 When you say shim the neck, your talking about putting a very thin piece of something in between the neck and the body joint yes ? Yes. If you cut a thin strip (1/8th inch or so) off the edge of a business card and place it at the body end of the neck pocket and bolt the neck back on, you will have altered the angle of the neck and you will be able to get lower action than you can now without the bridge saddles bottoming out. If that is not enough of an angle to fix it, you can fold over the edge of a business card so it is twice the thickness and try that height. It is a pretty easy process and it is easy to gauge by eye once you have experience, but plan on taking a lot of time to figure it out if you are doing it the first time. I'm out of here until tomorrow. If you need my help, let me know, but don't expect a quick response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 8, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2007 i actually have an old squier p-bass that i took apart a few years back and it had a shim in it, i thought it was something put there by accident and bolted the neck back without it. then i had horrible action and eventually figured it out. So i'll shim me jazz tomorrow, i wont have any problems doing that. cheers again Kindness. I hope HCBF is paying you a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hawkhuff Posted October 9, 2007 Members Share Posted October 9, 2007 I use very thin brass washers and put one on each screw that holds the neck to the body. Works beautifully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 9, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2007 cheers again Kindness. I hope HCBF is paying you a fee. That would be nice, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daryl Chaney Posted October 9, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 9, 2007 Ahoy ! Just ordered my brand spanking new set of Lindy Fralins for my Jazz. Delicous. and i have some vintage cloth wire, copper shielding and an Angela 0.47 paper oil cap waiting for the lindys arrival. I managed to shim the neck anyways (v. thin piece of v. light card about the size of a dollar coin / 2 euro about a 1/2 inch from the body.) but now the saddles are too high, due to some buzzing on the 14th > frets. I adjusted the truss rod but it doesnt seem to be straightening up the neck, theres a slight bow at the very top (near the nut). The truss rod may be fecked. so my action is roughly the same as it was before. its not awful, its well playable, but it could be better. Im just gonna try a smaller shim and see what happens. You guys got any ideas ? cheers Cant wait for those Lindys now, this ahem (MIM) Jazz is gonna kick my MIA P-bass into next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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