Members D Aussie Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Are rack set ups a phase we all are destined to go through at some point?Did you have a rack once but now you are better?Do you not yet have a rack and still crave a complicated, large fridge like rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L-1329 Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I go bass > head > cabs. About as simple as you can get. I also have the amp, wireless and tuner in a rack. Rack's don't need to be complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skatalite Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 My rack consists of:Power conditionerTunerSansAmp RBIAmp Whoooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I had a tuner, a wireless, and an ampeg svt4-pro in a rack over a pr-410hlf. (still have all of it) then I started using a wireless and a Trace V-6 over a pair of aggie 112's. Now I use a wireless(no-rack) a GK 800rb and 1 aggie 112. Next gig I am going to use my peterson strobostomp and a mic cord. (I tried it at practice and it sounds damn good). No amp, no wireless no cabs, I love it. Lots more space, less worries of lack of elec. circuits, quick, clean and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThrashmetalErik Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 are you kidding racks are like collecting basball or pokemon cards, only funner! ill never go back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikehorn Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I don't want a big rack. those are huge and annoying. All I want is a stompbox preamp like a SansAmp, a rack power conditioner and a heavily overbuilt monoblock rackmount MOSFET power amp with a massive fully regulated power supply for the output transistors and possibly a tube front end. You can't really buy an amp like that so I'd have to DIY it, which I presently am not able to. One day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members __tony__renaud Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Back in the day I had rack fulla Trace Elliot, along with a few rack effects, compressors, graphic EQ, a Furman power conditioner, a tuner, and even a drawer to put stuff in. This was the 80's and everybody did it. That rack took two guys to carry it around. These days, I use nothing but a cable and maybe a Radial Bassbone, and that's it. Most of the players I know who were doing the big racks back then aren't using them anymore, either. I see younger players out in the clubs now with racks and pedalboards that boggle the mind. All those guys sound the same to me, if they can be heard at all. Money can't buy you everything required for good tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roguetitan Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Are rack set ups a phase we all are destined to go through at some point?Did you have a rack once but now you are better?Do you not yet have a rack and still crave a complicated, large fridge like rig? Racks are the only way to go if you gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 82Daion Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I had the start of one going, but mostly out of necessity. I sold that head, though, so whether I'll stick with a rack is anyone's guess. However, they can be cool, in some situations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Aussie Posted October 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Back in the day I had rack fulla Trace Elliot, along with a few rack effects, compressors, graphic EQ, a Furman power conditioner, a tuner, and even a drawer to put stuff in.... Thats kinda what I meant.Is it just us old blokes who prefer lightweight now over effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members __tony__renaud Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thats kinda what I meant.Is it just us old blokes who prefer lightweight now over effects? Generally, yes. Plus, the advent of neo cabs and compact ultra-light heads freed bassists from carrying a lot of heavy gear that we used to. Multi-fx boxes have come a long way, too. As I matured as a player and really got my touch together, I found that I prefer the direct sound live over an amp-based sound. Soundmen seem to be able (and more willing) to dial you a better tone if you don't have a monster rig saturating the onstage mix as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basste Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 well ok ok, it's a guitard rack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Droplaw621 Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I jsut got rid of mine(actually it chillin in the garage) and went back to the old SVT. So much easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikehorn Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 well ok ok, it's a guitard rack a sweet one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I think most people go through a rack phase.Most people also go back to a combo or head+cab after a few years, unless they play stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcrow Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 i thought the head and cab idea the most easiest to transport possibly that is why racks are good...they are dismantleable.. the rack doesnt supply any sound merits...so you could put the stuff on chairs or trestles the fashion probably follows the film set of the latest star trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeonVomit Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I might get a rackmount head, and stick a tuner and a wireless in the case too. Keep it simple. I'm not a pre-power guy, I like intergrated solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J the D Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 As an old fart that has to hump his own gear I have gotten my rig down to a 18lb GK head into a 39 lb Eden cabinet. If I need more that's what the DI out on the GK is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no-logic Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 I am in the rack phase now. RBI and power amp. I haven't found an amp that gives me this sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacGarnicle Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Rack to the Future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Bad Monkey Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thats kinda what I meant.Is it just us old blokes who prefer lightweight now over effects? I wouldn't consider myself old. I just got sick and tired of lugging huge racks and speaker cabs into bars and other places for only 45 minutes. Right now I'm just amp and cab; I can carry everything in to a venue in five minutes and be set up with five more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Old rig(minus matching 1x15 SOB)- New rig- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rcz Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 i used to use a 300W carvin combo, but it was my first amp that resembled anything real. i prefer to use a rack for a couple reasons. i have a bergantino HT-112. it is 8 Ohms, relatively low on sensitivity, and it gets loud when you put the power to it. it is not that i can't find a head to drive it, but why bother looking? i have a preamp that i love the sound of. i can buy a head with the same preamp, but it's no lighter or easier to deal with than my power amp, which is over 600W per side into 8 Ohms. so suddenly i have a lot of flexibility in both my setup and how i can help the band or any given live situation. and i have a lot more power for the same money as buying a head. i hardly think it's the only way to go, and i hardly think it's a phase. it's not the absolute lightest rig available, but i would challenge anyone to find this kind of power at this kind of weight. to me it really comes down to what you're trying to accomplish with your amp and how you find a solution. if i'm ever playing with more than one cab, a lightweight amp really loses its practicality, especially at the price premium. if i ever add a second HT-112, i can't do a one-trip load-in anymore, anyway, so why worry so much about how light the amp is? it's all about what works for you sonically and physically. robb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 i've gone from dinky combo to hugh full stack to large combo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basste Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 a sweet one Petrucci's one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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