Members FloydianAnimal Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Hey guys, so I have my MIA Jazz strung .115 .95 .70 .50 and tuned to Drop C so CGCF low to high. It feels pretty good overall but the C string still seems kind of loose, even with heavy strings like that on there. I can't seem to set it up to be tight. Any suggestions on what I can do? Also, my P Bass is set up in Drop C as well but the low C on that one seems tighter- and that bass has smaller low strings on it too: .110 .90 .75 .55. One thing I noticed is the low C on my Jazz doesn't fit super well into the nut- would that make a difference? Also, the P bass has a Badass bridge on it- would a Badass on my Jazz make the low C tighter? I have the action set up moderately high on the Jazz and the low C saddle is back pretty far. Not sure what would work really; maybe I need an even heavier low C for the Jazz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Both basses have the same type and brand of strings, just different gauges? The Badass could definately have something to do with it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 i play standard-scale 4-string basses tuned CGCF and have found that for my money, it's worth a few extra bucks to get a 5-string set and just toss the E string out. string the bass (low to high) BADG and then tune CGCF. maybe it's perception, maybe it's just placebo effect, but it seems to me that with the B string on there instead of the E, it feels tighter. you might have to adjust your action and/or file out your nut a little bit, but neither of those things are difficult. as always, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToeJamFootball Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 i play standard-scale 4-string basses tuned CGCF and have found that for my money, it's worth a few extra bucks to get a 5-string set and just toss the E string out. string the bass (low to high) BADG and then tune CGCF.maybe it's perception, maybe it's just placebo effect, but it seems to me that with the B string on there instead of the E, it feels tighter. you might have to adjust your action and/or file out your nut a little bit, but neither of those things are difficult. as always, YMMV.I read the original post wrong. Thought he was already doing this. There's no way I'd tune an E string to C. Makes more sense to tune a B up to C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GRANKOR Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 I have my Jazz tuned to D and last night dropped it to C. No problems... using a 105 on the bottom too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 I read the original post wrong. Thought he was already doing this. There's no way I'd tune an E string to C. Makes more sense to tune a B up to C. i just assumed that the gauges he listed were for a standard (though slightly heavy) 4-string set. my b strings are 130's so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Try DR lo-riders. They have a higher tension than normal strings. Really nice too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Try DR lo-riders. They have a higher tension than normal strings. Really nice too! I actually bought two sets of them off ebay yesterday, (Extra Heavy) for my L2K which will arrive in a week or two. Mainly because because of your reccomendation, actually. They weren't too pricey off ebay either, around $25. Here in the shops in Norway they are more than $100 per set, go figure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 They weren't too pricey off ebay either, around $25. Here in the shops in Norway they are more than $100 per set, go figure.... That's about what they are for a 4 string set here. $100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's {censored}ing insane! For strings!!! Let me know how you like them. I know you're a Rotosound guy...as was I for my ATT-LTD II, but they just always felt weird. The DR's are much more consistent. They also don't have a weird feeling out of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 That's about what they are for a 4 string set here. $100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's {censored}ing insane! For strings!!! Let me know how you like them. I know you're a Rotosound guy...as was I for my ATT-LTD II, but they just always felt weird. The DR's are much more consistent. They also don't have a weird feeling out of the box... I'll definately let you know how I like them. I guess they at least work well for slap, and that they are bright and with lots of low-end. Should work very well for the G&L, and I might even use them on my ATT-LTD II too. I'll post a short review of both the bass and the strings when I get everything. The bass is being sent today, as are the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 someone say "with the tuner" someone say "with the tuner" someone say "with the tuner" Damn you people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Death Hands Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Adust the saddles?I've got a medium scale bass tuned BADG, and the B is fairly tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Damn you people! You said it! No reason to get all in a tiff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allan grossman Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Well, since there are more stupid answers in this thread than most - Several things have to be pretty damned rigid to keep strings from flopping; namely headstock, neck, neck-to-body joint and bridge. Any one of these could be wiggling around a little and causing your floppy B-string. If you made a 34" bass out of concrete the B string would be tight as hell. There are several manufacturers that make 5- and 6-string basses that don't have a floppy B string. My SR406's B is damn near as tight as my US Lakland's and the Ibanez has one extra string Don't listen to the morons. Something on your bass is moving around - all you have to do is find and fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Your P has a bigger neck than your Jazz. Maybe your Jazz neck doesn't handle the extra tension as well as the P, and is flexing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jackcheez Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 i play standard-scale 4-string basses tuned CGCF and have found that for my money, it's worth a few extra bucks to get a 5-string set and just toss the E string out. string the bass (low to high) BADG and then tune CGCF. maybe it's perception, maybe it's just placebo effect, but it seems to me that with the B string on there instead of the E, it feels tighter. you might have to adjust your action and/or file out your nut a little bit, but neither of those things are difficult. as always, YMMV. It IS higher tension. This is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 Okay, for my real answer: I have the action set up moderately high on the Jazz and the low C saddle is back pretty far. Not sure what would work really; maybe I need an even heavier low C for the Jazz? Are they the same brand strings for each bass? There are many things about string construction other than gauge that affect the tautness/stiffness of the string. For example, very generally speaking, if your P bass has flats and the J has rounds, I'd expect the P to feel stiffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 Don't listen to the morons. Something on your bass is moving around - all you have to do is find and fix it. First suspect is the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allan grossman Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 First suspect is the nut. Really? I'd have figured neck-to-body joint or headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 or headstock. I've never seen a headstock moving unless there is a crack. Is that what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allan grossman Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 I've never seen a headstock moving unless there is a crack. Is that what you mean? That's why Fender went back to the 4+1 headstock and everybody else learned their lesson before they went into production. The original 5-in line Fender headstocks moved around terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 That's why Fender went back to the 4+1 headstock and everybody else learned their lesson before they went into production. The original 5-in line Fender headstocks moved around terribly. By move, do you mean flex (which of course is movement, I'm just trying to visualize this)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allan grossman Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 Yup. Headstock bending forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted October 31, 2007 Members Share Posted October 31, 2007 That's why Fender went back to the 4+1 headstock and everybody else learned their lesson before they went into production. The original 5-in line Fender headstocks moved around terribly. Not to mention the 5 in a line was ugly as sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted October 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2007 Not to mention the 5 in a line was ugly as sin. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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