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It's only 9:45 in LA right now
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Though I'm usually around until at least 2 am, since I don't go to bed until then.

 

Well thats what I mean...I've been on all night the past couple nights and you got active towards the late hours...I was just curious. I'm off of work for two weeks so thats why I'm up late:D. It's nice!

 

 

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The course I'm teaching this term is a four-hour Monday night class, so my schedule is really loose.


 

 

Does that class meet more than once a week? I did those back in the first round of my college adventure. I liked 'em a lot, since I was a working musician and was already a night person to begin with.

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Does that class meet more than once a week? I did those back in the first round of my college adventure. I liked 'em a lot, since I was a working musician and was already a night person to begin with.

 

 

Nope, four hours on Monday. It's nice schedule wise, but it's a pain from a teaching/lecturing point of view. I would rather meet twice a week, you get more done.

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Nope, four hours on Monday. It's nice schedule wise, but it's a pain from a teaching/lecturing point of view. I would rather meet twice a week, you get more done.

 

 

So you are a Teacher's Aid or what? I'm taking online classes so I've never had the real college experience.

 

 

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Nope, Professor. Cal State Los Angeles (this term at least). I haven't finished my Ph.D yet so I only do adjunct work.

 

 

OK I wasn't sure what was going on with you and the teaching thing. How long until your PH.D? What do you have to do do complete it?

 

 

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OK I wasn't sure what was going on with you and the teaching thing. How long until your PH.D? What do you have to do do complete it?



Dan

 

Five years or so. Right now I'm taking a leave of absence to decide whether or not I want to spend those five years finishing.

 

I'm at the point where it's just my dissertation to go, but the dissertation is a 300+ page book :D

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Five years or so. Right now I'm taking a leave of absence to decide whether or not I want to spend those five years finishing.


I'm at the point where it's just my dissertation to go, but the dissertation is a 300+ page book
:D

 

Jesus...have you thought about what you would do it on?

 

 

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Jesus...have you thought about what you would do it on?



Dan

 

 

Well, that's the question I'm trying to decide right now.

 

Since I've got my masters, I can teach at community/junior colleges right now, or at private prep schools (which honestly have tougher classes than most lower level university classes).

 

The Ph.D. is only "necessary" if I want to go for a tenure track position at a university. What I'm trying to figure out is whether that's important to me. Teaching is what I love (even though I prefer college level, since as a professor I'm not required to 'look after' my students, being adults) and while I enjoy research, it's work. If I can be perfectly happy at a private prep school, there may be no reason to go through the trouble of a dissertation (though I may finish anyway, even if I were to decide to not pursue a tenure track position).

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You could always get the job you want now and work on your dissertation...there isn't a time limit or anything I would guess. Sorry if these are dumb questions. I have a handle on what it takes to get a Bachelors degree but thats about as far as I've looked into it:D, but nothing above that. I would ultimately love to get a Masters before I exit the Coast Guard and have a job lined up. Who know's what it will be in though...at least you know what you love and are interested in.

 

 

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You could always get the job you want now and work on your dissertation...there isn't a time limit or anything I would guess.

 

There is a time limit for how long I can be enrolled and actively working with my advisor(s)/committee. At UCLA, if it takes more than 10 years, you have to apply for an extension (which can be denied).

 

As it stands, I'm just starting my 4th year and am planning on a two year leave, so I'll be at five years total when the leave is done, which still leaves me five years to finish. I should have at least a year's worth of work done on the dissertation (hopefully more), so I'd be looking at ending at 7-9 years total (which is the high side of normal).

 

at least you know what you love and are interested in.


Dan

 

Yeah, I can teach for the rest of my life on my credentials now, so it's a situation of "Best Case scenario: I do what I love, Worst case scenario: I do what I love" :D

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You're in the position I see myself being in after I get my Master's, which (hopefully) I'll start on next year. I feel the same way about wanting to teach in college, but I don't think I want to go into a full-on PhD program yet, just in case I get halfway through and end up wanting to go a different direction. It just seems daunting to me starting on a path that's guaranteed to take the next six or seven years, if not more. That's a long time to be on the same trajectory.

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Since I've got my masters, I can teach at community/junior colleges right now, or at private prep schools (which honestly have tougher classes than most lower level university classes).

 

 

If you're more interested in teaching than research, I'd highly recommend going the community college route. As you know, this is what I do and love it.

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Cal State?!?!?!


and here i was thinking you were at UC....
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I am.

 

I'm a student at UCLA, and the last two years I've been a Teaching Associate there. However, Teaching Assistantships/Associateships are awards, and one personal generally can't get more than two years worth of those because the department needs to fund other people.

 

I however, need to eat food and pay rent, so this term I'm teaching at Cal State LA.

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If you're more interested in teaching than research, I'd highly recommend going the community college route. As you know, this is what I do and love it.

 

It's not that I don't like research, it's just that it's work. It's work I enjoy, but it's still work.

 

Teaching however, I would (and have) done for free. The way I look at adjunct work is that I'm lecturing/leading discussion for free and getting paid to grade the exams and papers :D

 

 

Compounding this all is that I've got a perfectionist streak (me? No!) that has caused problems for my writing, specifically taking too long on edits and such and missing deadlines. So one of the considerations is, "if I have such an issue with deadlines, maybe I shouldn't pick the profession that is nothing but deadlines (i.e., tenure-track university position).

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