Members Jim-Bass Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I learned to read the Bass Clef stave ....I'm not great, but I know all the notes and the values of them and rests, the signs and symbols and words like 'Allegro' - but I don't read Tab. I'll admit don't know much about it ...is it a simple as I think: 4 lines and fret numbers? If so, how do you know how long a note is? Or is it used to quickly work out songs you've already heard? If you gave 2 players the same Tab chart of a song that neither had heard before, would they both play it the same? I'm asking this because a couple of kids who I teach bass to give me Tab charts, and I listen to the song first. Then the Tab gives a head start on what is played. Is that the idea?
Members Verlian Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Both, both.. Both.. And always.. Both. I've read the staff longer, but not whilst playing. But either works for me.
Members bnyswonger Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can't read tab at all - it's really primitive IMO, written lines slowly, but I rule the charts.
Members REMUS Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Just tab for me, but i'm going to get myself some home schooling on clef, I have been able to read music in the past because I used to play the silver version of the trumpet which im to lazy to look up how to spell (coronet or something ).
Members SpaceGhost Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Charts and the clef. Tabs confuse and anger me.
Members sunburstbasser Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Just tab for me, but i'm going to get myself some home schooling on clef, I have been able to read music in the past because I used to play the silver version of the trumpet which im to lazy to look up how to spell (coronet or something ). A silver trumpet is a silver trumpet, a cornet/coronet (depends on which side of the Atlantic) is a bit different. I can read tabs, charts, and lines, bass and treble clef.
Members REMUS Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 i've always thought trumpets were brass only instruments, i've never seen any artist with a silver full size trumpet?
Members DevilRaysFan Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read both but I generally never use either............. I use charts on the gigs that require it.............
Members sunburstbasser Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 i've always thought trumpets were brass only instruments, i've never seen any artist with a silver full size trumpet? They are full-brass; the silver is only a plating on the outside except for things like Schilke's optional Sterling Silver bell. My own, a silver plate over brass: While a cornet is wrapped a bit differently, and has different tubing on the inside. In most major orchestras, the trumpet section consists of silver-plated Bach Stradivarius trumpets, if you want to see some in action. In jazz, both lacquer and silver finish (among others) are common.
Members SpaceGhost Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read tabs, charts, and lines, bass and treble clef. You're so talented.
Members sunburstbasser Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 You're so talented. Damn right! Though I don't necessarily read all of them well...
Members Bassius Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 i read bass clef, treble and even alto and tenor clef... i also read TAB
Members REMUS Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 They are full-brass; the silver is only a plating on the outside except for things like Schilke's optional Sterling Silver bell. My own, a silver plate over brass: While a cornet is wrapped a bit differently, and has different tubing on the inside. In most major orchestras, the trumpet section consists of silver-plated Bach Stradivarius trumpets, if you want to see some in action. In jazz, both lacquer and silver finish (among others) are common. Gawd I cba to argue with a mod
Members Zebra Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Don't use tab much anymore. Charts and music.
Members sunburstbasser Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Gawd I cba to argue with a mod Bring it up in the Wood/brass forum if you'd like to hear some others takes on it.
Members REMUS Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Tis ok, it's just that I thought it was pretty clear that I was talking about what they are actually made of, not the plateing
Members sunburstbasser Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Tis ok, it's just that I thought it was pretty clear that I was talking about what they are actually made of, not the plateing You were, and if you scraped that silver off, it'd be brass underneath.
Members someotherguy Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 Poor clef reader. I'd like to get better.I use tabs fairly often.I use both in similar ways, mostly to figure out lines while listening to or remembering them. (Not sight reading, unless really simple). In published guitar music, you may see both printed together. Clef to show you what to play, tab fills in more details of how (hammer on, pull off, harmonics, etc.) and where to play the notes. I've seen this for bass as well.
Members Roguetitan Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 tabs are good to look at if you have the music to know the fingre positionsbut they are not much good for telling your time signature or whether the note is a whole half quarter eighth note ect that is why it is good to know how to read notation and to be able to read the whole grand staff. with notation I can play the piece the way it was composed to soundwith tabs all you have is finger positions without any compositiion.
Members bendafender Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read both. They each have their strengths, but normally I read notation.
Members Mytola Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I learn songs by ear. If I would want to learn to read, I definately would learn Clef, not tabs.
Members 82Daion Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read charts/bass clef backwards and forwards. I do well enough with tab for simpler songs. I can read a little treble clef, but it ain't pretty.
Members DevilRaysFan Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read a little treble clef, but it ain't pretty. I have that same problem and it shouldn't be like that ...I wonder why that is?
Members collinwho Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I can read either, but if I'm going to write something down (which is very very very rare) it is going to be my own shorthand tab which incorporates the rhythm as well. I haven't had to sight read for years (4 years to be exact), so it would definitely be rusty if I tried to right now, but I am certain I could manage if I needed to.
Members chunky-b Posted November 6, 2007 Members Posted November 6, 2007 I started on piano in third grade so I learned to read bass clef years ago and didn't try to read tabs until a few years when I thought guitards were cool... Now that I have crossed over to the cool side, I try to do both. Depends on the song...
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