Members bassturd Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 i'll probably get flamed for this one but... i'm gettin into bass with main influences being Fieldy from KoRn and boosty collins... i really like the heavy distorted sound of fieldy... but i also like boosty collins bringin the funk... my question is... im gettin my first bass... its a fender MIM p bass... but fieldy uses a 5 string, can a 4 string be used to play his tunes? i've noticed he dont use high end a lot... so should i be able to just down tune the bass to the first 4 strings on a 5 string and play it like that?... also being a beginner does anyone have any good sites... books... videos for practicing slap techniques and building finger strength for finger picking?... i dont really wanna use a pick for bass... Thanks in advance for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 you can have the bass fitted to use the low 4 strings in a 5 string set if you want to go that route. BEAD tuning. requires a new nut and a setup. there are only 5 more notes with a 5 stringer so its not that hard, those notes can be found easily elsewhere. you cannot detune the E string to B because it would be way too floppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassturd Posted November 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 you can have the bass fitted to use the low 4 strings in a 5 string set if you want to go that route. BEAD tuning. requires a new nut and a setup. there are only 5 more notes with a 5 stringer so its not that hard, those notes can be found easily elsewhere.you cannot detune the E string to B because it would be way too floppy. OK, so basically buy really heavy strings for down tuning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassesofalessergod Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 who's this "fieldy" guy? Is he any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fran da Man Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 The top 4 lessons on here are for technique...follow them closely, like your playing career depends on it. (because it does) http://www.adamnitti.com/lessons.shtml The rest of his lessons will get you off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 you cannot detune the E string to B because it would be way too floppy. This is not necessarily true. My fretless P/J and my duct tape bass specifically to not have excessively floppy strings after detuning to BEAD from EADG. I recommend to the OP to try and detune with the existing strings first. If they are too floppy at that point, then by all means put on a 5 string set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassturd Posted November 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 who's this "fieldy" guy?Is he any good? go on youtube and search for him, or listen to KoRn.... thats who fieldy plays for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassturd Posted November 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 The top 4 lessons on here are for technique...follow them closely, like your playing career depends on it. (because it does)http://www.adamnitti.com/lessons.shtmlThe rest of his lessons will get you off to a good start. Thanks, im checking it out now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassesofalessergod Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 go on youtube and search for him, or listen to KoRn.... thats who fieldy plays for i'm just {censored}in' with ya....... i do that sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 This is not necessarily true.My fretless P/J and my duct tape bass specifically to not have excessively floppy strings after detuning to BEAD from EADG. I recommend to the OP to try and detune with the existing strings first. If they are too floppy at that point, then by all means put on a 5 string set. man i have a hard time playing 5ers with a floppy B string (34" scale mainly). i couldnt even imagine tuning a normal (100-105) E string down to B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SA Rios Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 go on youtube and search for him, or listen to KoRn.... thats who fieldy plays for I think that was a joke, bassturd. We all know who Fieldy is and no, he's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 man i have a hard time playing 5ers with a floppy B string (34" scale mainly). i couldnt even imagine tuning a normal (100-105) E string down to B. You should play a Stingray 5! They have a great B for being a 34" scale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 man i have a hard time playing 5ers with a floppy B string (34" scale mainly). i couldnt even imagine tuning a normal (100-105) E string down to B. I have a G&L L-2500 Tribute, 34" scale, with a tight B string. I think there's more than the scale length at play when discussing tight/floppy B strings. I played some expensive Pedulla 5er at a Guitar Center a couple of years ago and was shocked at how floppy the B string was (and yes it was in tune). ALL of my BEAD detuned basses have tighter B's than that bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassturd Posted November 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think that was a joke, bassturd. We all know who Fieldy is and no, he's not good. lol, i think he's good... i enjoy his style and playing... thats the part in the OP i was talking about getting flamed for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 You should play a Stingray 5! They have a great B for being a 34" scale... they seem cool. i played a bongo 4 the other day. i think the 4 strings suit me better. i cant get comfortable with 5 as much as i want to like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 I have a G&L L-2500 Tribute, 34" scale, with a tight B string. I think there's more than the scale length at play when discussing tight/floppy B strings. i agree 100% flats seem to be tigher to me than rounds but im sure that is an over generalization as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hanky Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 i think you could get that flieldy tone doing this:- use new string (not flat)- detuning without heavyer gauge string... so you get super floppy strings, with a lot of fretting noise- turn down the mid, and turn up the high freq. that should get that clanky sound without definition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 get his signature bass :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members molsen Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 this might be a good thread for you to follow: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1804360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Death Hands Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 get his signature bass :lol: His sig IS funk. Damn, it was an amazing bass for that sort of music. It was a bitch to coax other nice sounds from it, though. But, damn, was it funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 i think you could get that flieldy tone doing this: - use new string (not flat) - detuning without heavyer gauge string... so you get super floppy strings, with a lot of fretting noise - turn down the mid, and turn up the high freq. that should get that clanky sound without definition I thought I would never see the day when bass players actively seek out {censored}, incompetently played tone. Wow. Make sure and use your thumb and beat downwards on the strings until they hit the fretwires and pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 I thought I would never see the day when bass players actively seek out {censored}, incompetently played tone. Wow. Make sure and use your thumb and beat downwards on the strings until they hit the fretwires and pickups. Sarcasm/joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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