Members seraphim7s Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 As far as I know the price hasn't risen in the UK. The cheapest internet price for a 4003 is still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rickenbrother Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 Pete Hanewinckel frequents the Ric forums? Seriously, who decides who the best luthiers in the world are? Was there a poll that I didn't know about? I invite you to join or at least read the Rick Resource forum. Then you can decide for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 22, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 22, 2007 The opinion that matters is the opinion of the people that appreciate Ricks. I appreciate the hell out of mine, but I don't bull{censored} about the realities of their quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rickenbrother Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 I appreciate the hell out of mine, but I don't bull{censored} about the realities of their quality. Neither do I. Geez, I haven't posted this much here in years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 I invite you to join or at least read the Rick Resource forum. Then you can decide for yourself. I do actually..I don't post but I read.I still don't get where you got the idea that the two best luthiers in the world are there. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rickenbrother Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 I didn't say the two best. I said two OF the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted December 22, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 At least they're honest about it.But yeah, seriously time to relocate their factory. There's so much space in America, what's the big problem? Well moving the factory will, at the very least, also involve moving the experienced workers. Some may not want to move. It can get complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 Fanboi?...that's Fanboy to you guys and I'll take that as a compliment rather than an insult. "Fanboy" is someone who is a big time fan of something."Fanboi" is someone who has their lips wrapped around a company's junk, and is unintelligible because their mouth is full.Fanboi.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rickenbrother Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 Well moving the factory will, at the very least, also involve moving the experienced workers. Some may not want to move. It can get complicated. The problem is that RIC is located in what evolved into one of the most expensive area of the USA. When it first got set up there, it was a growing promising, reasonably priced area. Now prices are completely out of control in Southern California. It is not that easy to find the skill of the workers needed to make these guitars at a wage that people can comfortably live there. Many skilled luthiers that once lived in SoCal, now live in the states of Oregon or Washington. Even if RIC were to move the factory 25 miles away from where it is located now, quite a few of the workers may have difficulty getting to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 Wow, that is quite a price hike. Oh well, we have (relatively) free market economy here in the United States and they can charge whatever the heck they want. If they can get two grand for a 4003, more power to them. As has been said before, there are plenty of Rickenbacker enthusiasts willing to pay high price tags. I love the 4001/4003 basses, but they've never had a five string model that I've really cared for. I was strongly considering purchasing one about five years ago, and at that time I'd had a price of $950 shipped quoted to me. Those days are long gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 The problem is that RIC is located in what evolved into one of the most expensive area of the USA. When it first got set up there, it was a growing promising, reasonably priced area. Now prices are completely out of control in Southern California. It is not that easy to find the skill of the workers needed to make these guitars at a wage that people can comfortably live there. Many skilled luthiers that once lived in SoCal, now live in the states of Oregon or Washington.Even if RIC were to move the factory 25 miles away from where it is located now, quite a few of the workers may have difficulty getting to work. They could move the factory. There are skilled luthiers and techs everywhere and spaces for rent everywhere. There would be a lag with production, but since they can't keep up now anyway it's not a big deal. It wouldn't be easy but they could. I doubt 25 miles would make a difference in Cali..everyone commutes. It would definitely take some planning and good management but it could be done. Although with their current situation they might need to bring in outside management to handle the move:D:poke: Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 22, 2007 Members Share Posted December 22, 2007 They could move the factory. There are skilled luthiers and techs everywhere and spaces for rent everywhere. There would be a lag with production, but since they can't keep up now anyway it's not a big deal. It wouldn't be easy but they could. I doubt 25 miles would make a difference in Cali..everyone commutes. It would definitely take some planning and good management but it could be done. Although with their current situation they might need to bring in outside management to handle the move:D:poke:Dan +1. If they were able to increase production by 50% over the course of a year, it would make it worth the move. Something tells me that they're fine with having a backlog and artificially valuing their product instead of filling orders. It just baffles me that they could be selling 3 times the number of instruments than they do, but they're not doing anything to do it. So instead of pricing their basses commensurate to what they're actually worth, they're choking off the supply to increase demand, and then raising their prices to curb further demand, while still hitting their bottom line. Why on earth should the bass buying public choose Rickenbacker over basses that are the same quality, same price, but are readily available? I think Ric's are a {censored}ing joke.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 That is quite a price jump, but I've always thought Rics were under priced anyway. Where else could you get a hand-made neck-through bass of Ric's quality for around a thousand bucks? It always seemed too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 I think Ric's are a {censored}ing joke. C7 (grabs '74 4001, plugs in, rips out some Rush...)Do tell. The joke must be on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 Do tell. The joke must be on me. The basses are merely OK, their business practices are absurd. Joker.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 The basses are merely OK, their business practices are absurd. Joker. C7 how is the business you own and operate running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 Do tell. The joke must be on me. its the same mentality that the People who want a Les Paul and cant afford one have.I cant afford it so it must be crap! QC issues, over hyped guitarsI am glad I got mine when I did. I wouldnt want to have the Bass of my dreams be out of reach either but thats no reason to slam the business practices or the quality of a proven leader in the industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 how is the business you own and operate running? Great. Pimpin' ain't always easy, but it's always profitable. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y-o-y Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 its the same mentality that the People who want a Les Paul and cant afford one have. I cant afford it so it must be crap! QC issues, over hyped guitars I am glad I got mine when I did. I wouldnt want to have the Bass of my dreams be out of reach either but thats no reason to slam the business practices or the quality of a proven leader in the industry The same mentality exists among people who want to justify to themselves overpaying for an particular product. This is a "$2000 bass", it is the best evar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 The same mentality exists among people who want to justify to themselves overpaying for an particular product. This is a "$2000 bass", it is the best evar!! +1. I've played several Rics and I never thought they lived up to the hype. But hey, it's a bass that apparently makes the owner way cooler than other bass players, so I suppose it's worth paying too much for.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 The same mentality exists among people who want to justify to themselves overpaying for an particular product.This is a "$2000 bass", it is the best evar!! thats true too it is not the price of the equipment that makes a good player.....its the talent My Ric doesnt make me play any better than the $160 SX I have. but the Ric is a much better feeling instrument to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 Great. Pimpin' ain't always easy, but it's always profitable.C7 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted December 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 +1. I've played several Rics and I never thought they lived up to the hype. But hey, it's a bass that apparently makes the owner way cooler than other bass players, so I suppose it's worth paying too much for. C7 My Ric makes my penis 7 inches longer fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted December 23, 2007 Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 My Ric makes my penis 7 inches longer fool! 8" total?Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted December 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2007 As the Great Sam Kinison said "I've got a tiny penis, that's why you won't mind if I stick it in your ass! Suddenly she'll scream 'OMFG! You're BIG!' ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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