Members Clatter Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I hate to post and run, but I have to go pick my kitty up at the vet hospital where she's been in ICU for a couple days. But I thought I'd start this thread real quick and come back this evening. I have a quandary and I'm hoping you gear heads can help me out. I need to scale down my rig for our tour of Europe but I don't want to lose my big sound and great tone. Is it possible?!?! Any suggestions on how I can put it together? If for some reason you aren't already familiar with my setup (could it be possible?!) here's a link that gives you an idea: Amy's Too Much Stuff I know if anyone can advise me it's you guys!! Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Wow, you tri-amp to get your sound? Are you looking to buy new equipment while in Europe to handle the electricity there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L-1329 Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 How about turning the Mesa 412 into a 212. That tone sure shouldn't need a 412, which are huge cabs. The 212's crank too and are a LOT smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapthefunkyfour Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I'm stumped. I'm really interested to see what these other guys come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 What's the max amount of stuff you can take?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Are you going to be mic'ing cabs and sending to the PA, or are you using your rig for your volume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2008 I assume you will want to keep your pedal board intact and bring whatever instruments are necessary. My guess is the biggest savings will be on the amp and cabinet side of things. Do you need to maintain the same volume? Basic goal = three channels of amplification for clean, effected and distorted? If so, as a first thought, a stereo pre (or two small mono pres) into a stereo power amp can cover your clean and effected and your distorted can come from another smaller amp. Like L-1329 suggests, a 2x12 is going to be enough for the Mesa sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 thats a wicked crazy amount of gear. like the others asked, how much can you take? and good luck with your cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think the Mesa is what you don't absolutely need. You can get your distortion through something programmable (you might get away with your VF1) and send as much or little to the redhead and henry as you need. You realize anything is going to be a compromise of sorts, but, I think that arrangement would get you closer to what you have than anything else I can think of. On the upside, without that mesa blaring away your stage volume would be much more manageable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I assume you will want to keep your pedal board intact and bring whatever instruments are necessary. My guess is the biggest savings will be on the amp and cabinet side of things. Do you need to maintain the same volume?Basic goal = three channels of amplification for clean, effected and distorted?If so, as a first thought, a stereo pre (or two small mono pres) into a stereo power amp can cover your clean and effected and your distorted can come from another smaller amp. Like L-1329 suggests, a 2x12 is going to be enough for the Mesa sound. That was gonna be my idea as well, if you could get away w/ the clean and effected through one rig and keep your disto on another, w/ a smaller cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i_wanna_les_paul Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Daisychain 3 POD's into a powered Mackie speaker or two... Okay, really, Kindness' idea is about the best, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Here is my suggestion: Get a small 4 channel mixer. Run all your seperate "amp feeds" through the mixer channels, then send a summed output from this to your amp/cab/combo of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clatter Posted January 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Aw, see, I knew you guys would have lots of great ideas!! Okay, here's what i can tell you: * I will be taking my basses and pedals and renting the rest. * I would like to have separate amps for distorted, clean, and effected. I really would prefer to be able to separate the sounds since I A/B/C them. I'm not really sure about volume; this might be a better question for Grant and Jazz Ad, my two hero booking agents. They might know if I'd be mic-ing or using stage volume or what. Here in the States I really heavily on stage volume for my tone and just so I can hear without monitors. So what if I got a Redhead for the effected channel, like I use now, then got a couple of other combo amps? I should try playing clean through my Redhead and A/B that with my SM-900 to see if I can get a comparable sound; then I guess I could rent two Redheads. I like the idea of using a 210, that could sound really nice. You guys rock! Okay, NOW I'm going to go pick up kitty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 So what if I got a Redhead for the effected channel, like I use now, then got a couple of other combo amps? I should try playing clean through my Redhead and A/B that with my SM-900 to see if I can get a comparable sound; then I guess I could rent two Redheads. I like the idea of using a 210, that could sound really nice. You guys rock! Okay, NOW I'm going to go pick up kitty! I think that idea would work really well. Use two Redheads, 1 for fx, 1 for clean, and then some guitar combo amp for the distortion. You could try and find a Mesa Dual Rectifier combo, it probably wouldn't be all that hard, and I'd say try and find it in a 1x12 even. If you crank it, you should still get the volume you need and the footprint would be much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think that Markbass stuff is pretty available over there. Maybe 2 2X10 combos, for distortion & effects, and a 4x10 or 2x12 for lows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Could you rent two redheads and a 212 Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Could you rent two redheads and a 212 Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier? +1. Or any decent dual 210 combo setup, like EBS, Markbass, Orange maybe?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 You could try and find a Mesa Dual Rectifier combo, it probably wouldn't be all that hard, and I'd say try and find it in a 1x12 even. They don't make a Dual Rec combo. They make a Road King combo or a Roadster combo...which are both very similar to a Dual Rec...but they have more bells & whistles. The Road King is insane. I want one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 They don't make a Dual Rec combo. They make a Road King combo or a Roadster combo...which are both very similar to a Dual Rec...but they have more bells & whistles. The Road King is insane. I want one... +11. I don't even play guitar, but with that head, I'd start!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 They don't make a Dual Rec combo. They make a Road King combo or a Roadster combo...which are both very similar to a Dual Rec...but they have more bells & whistles. The Road King is insane. I want one... I could swear that a guitarist in my old band had a Dual Rectifier combo, must have been a Single, maybe? All I know is it was some kind of Rectifier combo. Yeah, the Road King is a total beast. It can give you all the distortion you need and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Gonna be in Europe?Dig the SWR sound?I have three little letters for you. ebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2008 I'm not going to lie, this thread makes me want to build an entire new rig for Amy that does what she needs only better and handmade. It would be a great way to combine my love of building and my love of creative design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 I could swear that a guitarist in my old band had a Dual Rectifier combo, must have been a Single, maybe? All I know is it was some kind of Rectifier combo. They made a Tremoverb combo...which is also based on the rectifier design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 They made a Tremoverb combo...which is also based on the rectifier design. Could have been that. The main thing I remember is that it had the potential to really sound amazing, but he always EQ'd it so horribly that it was always a muddy mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 17, 2008 Members Share Posted January 17, 2008 Could have been that. The main thing I remember is that it had the potential to really sound amazing, but he always EQ'd it so horribly that it was always a muddy mess. Also remember that even the Single Recto's are still dual channel, so could've been that and fit your description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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